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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Klaus said:
The two wingers that Ange started against Liverpool he sanctioned 80m on in the summer. So either Ange has poor talent ID for his system, or can't coach them up to standard. Which is it?
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the johnson signing is probably what he would of wanted at celtic. would probably look world class against partick thistle and co.

him buying counter attacking forwards for his possession based system is extremely worrying. johnson and son are what you bring on when youre 2 up and the other side have to show a pair of bollox and come out.
 
TOZ said:
Did you see our last few games and does it fill you win confidence of not only cruising to 4th next season (which is losers mentality as you imply) but actually achieving glory and go up the most successful clubs as you put it. No irony, just a serious question.
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I've watched the games and I understand the concerns. However, I've been following Ange since his Brisbane Roar days. This is part of the process. Tottenham will come good.
 
Kekerinho said:
Lol @ putting “title” and “Postecoglou” in the same sentence. He should be focused on getting Tottenham back into top 4 next season, cause I think he won’t be sacked at the end of the season.

But with Chelsea emerging as a top 4 contender, Newcastle wanting to get back in Champions League after having a taste of it, Woolwich and City the tip of the spear by the looks of it, depending how Liverpool and United do this summer and under new managers (maybe not the case for United), possibly Villa will be in the mix too although I suspect Champions League will take a toll on their league results, the competition will be fiercer than it was this season.

So yeah, good luck getting “second season” title challenge or whatever the fuck you lot think we’ll be doing next season.
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Pep won the EPL in his second season but it is hard for any club to compare to them from a financial point of view.

Klopp won the EPL in his 5th season.

Arteta has been at Woolwich since 2019 and has not won the EPL.
 
theFOOTBALLlover said:
I've watched the games and I understand the concerns. However, I've been following Ange since his Brisbane Roar days. This is part of the process. Tottenham will come good.
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With all due respect, the Premier League is the toughest league in the world. Each week you're competing against world class managers, Ange's experience in Australia or the pub league north of the border is simply not relevant.
 
theFOOTBALLlover said:
Pep won the EPL in his second season but it is hard for any club to compare to them from a financial point of view.

Klopp won the EPL in his 5th season.

Arteta has been at Woolwich since 2019 and has not won the EPL.
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Klopp had won the Bundesliga twice and reached the CL final with Dortmund. He was widely regarded as one of the best managers on the planet when he took charge at Liverpool. He also inherited a garbage squad and took them to two finals in his first season.

I fail to see what similarities Ange shares with Klopp.
 
Kosher Kid said:
I doubt any of them were Ange's picks for what it is worth.

My point is that someone else usually selects the transfers and their suitability for the team or the manager is just one of the governing factors.

Emerson Royal was bought for Nuno by (Hitchen?) Paratici or possibly somebody else.

Royal finds himself being today's whipping boy and this is a recurring situation under multiple managers.
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Outside of a thumbs up/down (ie final approval) there is a tonne of work that goes in to identifying (which includes complying with rules, quotas etc.), scouting and getting player to commit to terms before Ange gives his approval.

So when I hear shit like "I don't know what Ange saw in Johnson", there is just a shit-tonne of context being left on the table.
 
marxoulis said:
For all those comparing this season with previous ones I have only two words:
Harry Kane.
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Well here are a few more words for consideration:

Micky Van De Ven
Maddison
Vicario
Udogie
Pape Sarr
Pedro Porro
Gio Lo Celso
Dragusin

There's no denying we miss Kane but the team is considerably more balanced this season than the last few years. Look at the squad Conte had when he joined and tell me this one isn't levels above.

And the back 5 is top drawer, way too good to be conceding as many goals as we are. If Kane were in our team right now he wouldn't be making us any tighter at the back.
 
vibes_guy said:
Outside of a thumbs up/down (ie final approval) there is a tonne of work that goes in to identifying (which includes complying with rules, quotas etc.), scouting and getting player to commit to terms before Ange gives his approval.

So when I hear shit like "I don't know what Ange saw in Johnson", there is just a shit-tonne of context being left on the table.
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I think it was pretty obvious to most who'd seen him at Forest that Brennan was an inside forward, best on the transition. Hence why counter attacking teams like Brentford wanted him so badly.

Never, ever a touchline winger for a possession based team.
 
Anyone worth their salt could see that Brennan Johnson was not the answer. Cant believe we blew 47m on him to boot. Then we bring in Timo Werner. TBF he has done ok, but if thats what we are about I give up.
 
Juno said:
It’ll all be okay once ‘Angel’s system is bedded in’. We need a load of technical players to play a Brazil 1970 style and we can just disregard pesky rudimentary chores of the game like defending set pieces. They score 3, we’ll score 4.
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Nothing wrong with that last sentence - at least, it won't be boring!
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Does Ange think its OK that

Kulu nearly never goes on the outside of the defender ?
we never play an early long ball ?
playing out from the back once their players move forward we don't play fast balls?

we all know he thinks set pieces don't matter
 
he's tied to his system, no matter what players we have available

For me I want a manager who can play many styles/formations (using the same 11-15 players) that means he has to coach,
 
Aphex said:
Hey everyone, new here but just wanted to say I am fully Ange out I am afraid.

I've had concerns since around Christmas time with his system, tactical inflexibility and his inability to organise a defence.

We are so so open to play against, teams don't even need to get out of second gear.

I just watched Klopp's interview and he completely exposed Ange's tactics. Just said we have lots of pointless possession but they knew as soon as they turnover the ball they are in on our goal.

Managers have worked Ange out completely. I am saying it now, if we give this guy the summer, we will write off another year at least. We will start next season exactly as we are finishing this one and may even face a relegation battle.

People seem to think we will just buy a whole new side to fit Ange's tactics but it's nonsense. Our back four basically isn't changing for next season, so what makes people think by next season we will suddently be able to keep clean sheets?

The trajectory is clear, we are going downwards. I'd sack him and do all we can to bring in Tuchel in the summer. It would be a monumental mistake to give Ange 150 million this summer. His system just won't work in the PL, we are so naive.

The first 10 games just look like a new manager bounce, riding good vibes, but it's fallen apart since then.
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Not tuchel his not a progressive manager. We need someone younger with coaching skills, Abel to improve players, good motivator , hungry and has good tactical acumen.
 
Klaus said:
Good point. Actually my mates Dad once coached the local under 9s team to an unbeaten season, maybe Spurs should hire him next? I mean it's all football at the end of the day.
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You've taken my point out of context. He has coached men's top flight football for decades, from clubs to national teams.

I understand your point that he doesn't have experience in another top league but to say everything he has done and achieved is irrelevant is nonsense.

As I've said before, if you boys don't want him, I'll take him at Porto.
 
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