• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Ange Postecoglou

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Of course a major part of the problem is a toxic fanbase who want to sack the manager at any sign of struggle.

We are seeing it happen again right now.

I wouldn’t say a few morons on twitter with loud voices speak for the majority of fans. I suspect if you look closely they are part of the purple and yellow brigade who are very simple and moan about anything. A huge drawback of social media.

In the stadium is more reflective and I’d say while annoyed at the form, people are supportive of the manager. Reactions to us in the stadium will be what causes levy to get twitchy, that and if any Levy out chants begin. Until then he is more than safe. Of course, go in at half time behind on Saturday and there will be some boos just like v Luton.
 
watched that video yesterday
made a lot of sense But no answer as to what needed to change to get defenders out of their comfect areas
 
I think it was pretty obvious to most who'd seen him at Forest that Brennan was an inside forward, best on the transition. Hence why counter attacking teams like Brentford wanted him so badly.

Never, ever a touchline winger for a possession based team.

This is a misnomer in football, sorry.

Transitions of play happen, regardless of playing style.

There are numerous examples of inside forwards playing for possession-heavy teams.
 
Out of boredom I had a squizz through this thread during the period of the opening ten games.

Complete absence of some of the usual cockroaches suspects during this period.

Hmmmm, not difficult to see who the trolls are if you did have any doubt! 🤔😂
 
Wonder what the tech analyst are telling him both "in game time" and at "after match review"
surely they are pointing out that we arn't moving their defenders out of position, or that we are not releasing Son or johnson with early balls ?
also isn't this something that the football proformance guys should be involved with ?
 
Transitions of play happen, regardless of playing style.
Yes, but some teams are obviously more transitional and counter attacking than others. Surely you wouldn't deny that?

Conte or Mourinho for example are managers who specifically set up to hit quickly on the counter. Pep and Arteta are examples of managers who prefer slower, more methodical build up in possession.

Obviously there will be transitional moments in City's games but not nearly as many, and it's not how Pep wants his team to create chances as you lose the element of control.

What's also clear is you would never, ever find Pep buying a winger like Brennan Johnson. He wants technically brilliant players who can hold possession and keep their width, even if it compromises on pace. Players like Grealish, B Silva, Foden, Mahrez.

Considering Ange clearly bases a lot of his attacking structure on Pep, Brennan was an absolutely baffling purchase for his system. And is a real black mark against his talent ID.
 
Surely Ange knows what the problem is and will change. If teams are packing central areas to force us wide then he’ll have to alter our build up. He’s not managed this long to keep doin the same thing time and again. There are plenty of examples where he has changed tactics lads.

 
Yes, but some teams are obviously more transitional and counter attacking than others. Surely you wouldn't deny that?

Conte or Mourinho for example are managers who specifically set up to hit quickly on the counter. Pep and Arteta are examples of managers who prefer slower, more methodical build up in possession.

Obviously there will be transitional moments in City's games but not nearly as many, and it's not how Pep wants his team to create chances as you lose the element of control.

What's also clear is you would never, ever find Pep buying a winger like Brennan Johnson. He wants technically brilliant players who can hold possession and keep their width, even if it compromises on pace. Players like Grealish, B Silva, Foden, Mahrez.

Considering Ange clearly bases a lot of his attacking structure on Pep, Brennan was an absolutely baffling purchase for his system. And is a real black mark against his talent ID.

1821 minutes played.

In the top 20 players in the league for assists.
5goals for spurs. 1 less than kulu who has played 2563 minutes.
He has 5 more assists than Kulu as another marker.

So I think he’s had a decent season. He’s only going to get better with the right coaching.

I know the work pep put into sterling his first couple of seasons. Paid absolute dividends.

Johnson a similar type of player. Making him properly effective has to be the biggest aim for him.
 

Was thinking I think there's only a handful of players who who are cemented as spurs players next season

Vicario, Porro, Romero, Dragusin, VDV, Udogie, Sarr, Maddison, Son and Johnson
Said it before I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of our more established players leave.

Although message was still vague from POK as could mean the likes of PEH, Lo Celso and all the loan players.
 
Surely Ange knows what the problem is and will change. If teams are packing central areas to force us wide then he’ll have to alter our build up. He’s not managed this long to keep doin the same thing time and again. There are plenty of examples where he has changed tactics lads.

You'd think, but then why has he been so inflexible this season?

Why, when Udogie and Porro were both out, did he play Davies and Emerson in the exact same inverted roles even though it was obvious it wouldn't suit them?

Why with Dier and Davies at CB did he play the same suicidally high line as he does with VDV and Romero?

Why has he never once shown a single in game adjustment to our in possession set up? (Bar the occasional throwing on Dragusin to protect a lead but which has usually only invited pressure).

I want to believe Ange is a manager who can learn and adjust. But all the signs are pointing to someone stubbornly set in his ways and, frankly, out of his depth.
 
I mean, you can sit here and say we are going to be relegated when we have had above average players for the past 16 seasons, but it doesn't mean I have to listen to that bullshit. The last time we finished bottom half of the league was 17 seasons ago. And no, it wasn't because of the managers. It was because Levy sold the likes of Carrick, Berbatov, and Keane and didn't replace them well enough.
It doesn't matter how good your players are if none of them want to play for your manager.
Nor does it matter if your manager is unhappy and just wants to be sacked. Which is inevitably what they do now due to the finances. Managers rarely resign.
 
Back
Top