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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Im all for him having another season. Let him bring players he wants to fit the tactics. Next season do or die
Looking forward to seeing the likes of Lo Celso, Bentancur, Kulusevski etc being ecstatically shown the door whilst dross like Johnson & Werner and posers like Maddison will be joined by more dross like Gallagher. If he stays then he can't be given control of transfers as he's proven he can't be trusted.
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Because the club know if they sack him it's gonna cause another shit storm anyway and it would be entirely stupid to half commit to a rebuild anyway so it's good someone has sense.
You back him and he flops what's the worst that can happen? All you're gonna be doing is leaving a talented and youngish squad for the next manager to come in and improve.
Events , dear boy , events .
Apparently he insulted the fans by saying the club is winning nothing as long as the players and Levy do things the same way.
Oh and getting knocked out by Milan in the Champions League was some sort of rock bottom point for the club, imagine that
He insulted the fans by clearly not giving a shit about the club. It was just a stopgap payday for him.Apparently he insulted the fans by saying the club is winning nothing as long as the players and Levy do things the same way.
Oh and getting knocked out by Milan in the Champions League was some sort of rock bottom point for the club, imagine that
And the football was dreadful.
He didn’t give a shit about the club how? How exactly do you know what feelings he had towards the club?
6 months later after Levy gives Sess, Gio and Hjojberg new contracts
“We are disappointed to announce we are parting ways with Ange”
Yeah, let’s build the team in the image of a guy who knows to play only one way.
If I won’t taste success as a fan of this fucking football club anytime soon, at least I’ll be here to laugh at all the fools believing/hoping this fraud will be successful here. And I’ll be loud.
This! Let Patricia keep cooking and pulling up Gems like Sarr and Udogie and it won’t matter who is manager!
Nope not having that. 4/5 players have changed. Conte would not have got us 4th. Conte no matter what would not be there this season even if we finished 4th last season. We were always a stop gap and that is not on Conte. It is on Levy if Conte got through two seasons with Levy he would have been seen as a much easier person to work with.
The simple fact is Levy has garnered himself a reputation of being hard to work with and that he has to have his way. He also one who loves to have his own private advisors run rule over what the manager/DOF is doing so he has had a whole list of private advisors.
It is like the Harry story where he had agreed for Carrick to sign for Portsmouth told Levy about the deal and he went and hijacked the transfer without bothering to tell Arnesen or Santini. Similar cases have happened with Richarlison where Levy really pushed the transfer.
The fact is Levy still has way too much control over footballing decisions which means the experts never get the total run of things.
Sure there have been other managers that have come to the Prem thinking they have the one-size-fits-all magic formula, and this league has smacked that shit out of them.
With someone who has such a strong sense of 'duty to principle', such as Ange, it will, naturally, take some time for him to absorb harsh reality and, inevitably, succumb to the intransigent requirements of this division.
He is going through a necessary baptism of fire and will, hopefully, come out the other end purified of any illusion that he can just rock up here and do what the hell he wants without any consideration, adjustment or contingency.
I am positive he'll never say it in front of a camera, but you will see - as we have already, with him ditching full zonal marking, straight after saying he didn't need to change anything (predictable - he had no choice) - little tweaks appear in our game, with it smoothly transforming over time.
He'll say he's changed nothing and that new players are just more precisely carrying out his instructions, but he will have actively re-engineered certain parts.
This is why I'm relatively calm - he has no choice.
And as much as he's a devotee of his own system, he's also fiercely proud of his image as an old-school purist, living the essence of the game and showing the world how it can be done.
Failure at the first 'big test' hurdle will actually scare him imo.
And already has, as we've seen with recent loss of usual composure.
He's had to take a lighting stop tour of the stages of mourning, but will settle down and make peace with the Prem and we'll be ok.
*If he's finna bring in any more Brennan Johnsons, none of the above matters, because he will never have the technical components to make it all work.
With someone who has such a strong sense of 'duty to principle', such as Ange, it will, naturally, take some time for him to absorb harsh reality and, inevitably, succumb to the intransigent requirements of this division.
He is going through a necessary baptism of fire and will, hopefully, come out the other end purified of any illusion that he can just rock up here and do what the hell he wants without any consideration, adjustment or contingency.
I am positive he'll never say it in front of a camera, but you will see - as we have already, with him ditching full zonal marking, straight after saying he didn't need to change anything (predictable - he had no choice) - little tweaks appear in our game, with it smoothly transforming over time.
He'll say he's changed nothing and that new players are just more precisely carrying out his instructions, but he will have actively re-engineered certain parts.
This is why I'm relatively calm - he has no choice.
And as much as he's a devotee of his own system, he's also fiercely proud of his image as an old-school purist, living the essence of the game and showing the world how it can be done.
Failure at the first 'big test' hurdle will actually scare him imo.
And already has, as we've seen with recent loss of usual composure.
He's had to take a lighting stop tour of the stages of mourning, but will settle down and make peace with the Prem and we'll be ok.
*If he's finna bring in any more Brennan Johnsons, none of the above matters, because he will never have the technical components to make it all work.
"I've only been supporting the club for 50+ years so I haven't managed to hit the level where I want everyone sacked when things aren't Real Madrid standard every wee."
The process are probably comparable Yes!
Why trying to ridicule a poster that obviously has followed the man his whole career?
You mean you’re not being already?!!Yeah, let’s build the team in the image of a guy who knows to play only one way.
If I won’t taste success as a fan of this fucking football club anytime soon, at least I’ll be here to laugh at all the fools believing/hoping this fraud will be successful here. And I’ll be loud.
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Because he's talking shite and noy comparing like for like
I now watched this FourFourTwo video explaining our situation and got to conclusion that Ange is done for. Not that I would currently wish or support him gone, but I still think that is already almost certain.
- initial success came from interesting new approach
- form fell off due to number of factors and since Newcastle game, there are many examples for even idiots like myself of how to set up team against us
- poor results are starting to eat into players confidence and belief in the system
- more rather than less players in the squad will not fight for the system
- all last 3 issues just compound themselves
- after 10 game next season we'll be sitting on 12 points and the position is indefensible
This scenario could be avoided, but it would include number of things that just realistically will not materialize. For that to happen we should -
- sell Son (not fitting the system, absolutely worst imaginable captain but selling him would be easiest way of changing captain)
- complete the deadwood clearout almost fully with summer window (including sales of minimally Rodon, Tanganga, Spence, Sessegnon, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Gil, Regulion, PEH, Royal and someone from list of Davies, Richie, Skippy and Bissouma)
- get in MANY new recruits that are good AND are willing to run through the wall for Ange; this would minimally require 1 quality #6 (or 2 if Biss goes), 1 top quality ST, 2 wingers that can produce goals and take-ons, 1 or 2 fullbacks.
Points 2 and 3 will surely not happen, so there will not be enough of a change. So this end of season shit will drag on, spiral will continue and we'll be looking for new gaffer.
- initial success came from interesting new approach
- form fell off due to number of factors and since Newcastle game, there are many examples for even idiots like myself of how to set up team against us
- poor results are starting to eat into players confidence and belief in the system
- more rather than less players in the squad will not fight for the system
- all last 3 issues just compound themselves
- after 10 game next season we'll be sitting on 12 points and the position is indefensible
This scenario could be avoided, but it would include number of things that just realistically will not materialize. For that to happen we should -
- sell Son (not fitting the system, absolutely worst imaginable captain but selling him would be easiest way of changing captain)
- complete the deadwood clearout almost fully with summer window (including sales of minimally Rodon, Tanganga, Spence, Sessegnon, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Gil, Regulion, PEH, Royal and someone from list of Davies, Richie, Skippy and Bissouma)
- get in MANY new recruits that are good AND are willing to run through the wall for Ange; this would minimally require 1 quality #6 (or 2 if Biss goes), 1 top quality ST, 2 wingers that can produce goals and take-ons, 1 or 2 fullbacks.
Points 2 and 3 will surely not happen, so there will not be enough of a change. So this end of season shit will drag on, spiral will continue and we'll be looking for new gaffer.
No and I haven’t laughed at anyone so far. I wouldn’t say I’m loud, posting about the same amount as everyone else.You mean you’re not being already?!!