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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I'm one of the Ange out, the reason for this is
he says set pieces arn't important -- they are and he has had lots of free midweeks where he could have worked on defending/attacking set plays
he only plays one way --- no change to 3 at the back, or 4 man midfield, NO change in formation when we don't have richy as CF (Son has never been a CF, he is good at running or cutting in from left, but NOT a CF)
he won't look at other seasons video's to see what is players natural way of playing, so he can put them in right position (see above re-Son)
 
for those that have watched the Video re- "why its going wrong"
he suggests that the opponents are defending between the sides of the penatly
So even if we had top draw wingers why would the defenders come out to mark them ?
also we would need a CF that is king of 6yd box to put in crosses or midfielders good at hitting shots from edge of box
 
It's amazing how two competent touchline wingers, and more technically astute midfielders (and a better defensive 6) would essentially see us resolving all of Ange's issues in one go.

Surely we're not above giving the man one extra season with three excellent buys? We got VdV with an eye to his system - are we upset that we did if he leaves?

It's not about the wingers. Players lpse fprm. It's how you overcome the fragility within the team.

More than bloody wingers, we need an out anc out striker and a proper central midfielder, the quality of which we have not had since the imperious Dembele.
 
I have my doubts and the last few months (especially the last 5 games) have been pretty galling but fuck me - some of the chat from our fans is mental, we can't be sacking the guy now and changing Manager AGAIN within one season.
Absolutely up for him playing another season with hopefully better tools on the pitch - it really does come down to who we recruit and sell this summer IMO.
Hes trying to completely change the football after the everyone defend and counter shite we have been subjected to now for years and its only been a 30 something games - new players, young squad and some declining or unsuitable players who need to go.

Conte and Mourinho knew what they were doing? Two negative, incendiary chequebook cunts who should never have been at Spurs. Short memories of how crap it has been the last 4 years lads.

We need to sack Big Ange, let’s get Big Sam in, he will keep us up, real men’s football.
 
I wouldn't get rid of Ange yet, I want to see him get more of a chance to turn things round.

If we do get rid I think De Zerbi or Iraola are the obvious shouts from within the PL. Maybe Marco Silva. Will defer to others on the Bundesliga/La Liga. I'm less hot on Potter tbh, could be Ange all over again.

Good, because that would be ridiculous.

Also, we're in a european spot. It's not about 'turning things around'. It's about building upon the foundations he's been laying this season, being ruthless in the transfer market in terms of selling (and upgrading), and getting his tactics implemented correctly over pre-season.

We absolutely do not need to get rid, so I don't want to hear any more shite from any cunt talking about replacement managers.

(P.S Anyone who disagrees with this post isn't a spurs fan. Fact, not opinion).

(P.P.S You're blocked John Thomas & friends, so don't even think of involving yourself in my business, boys.)
 
good call, 100% record as England manager, better than Ange management of Australia (45%)

The numbers speak for themselves

Passion, commitment, brown envelopes.

Big Sam for Spurs

Premier League Sam GIF by Play Sports


Sam Allardyce England GIF
 

Just watched this.

Was very good. As usual with that guy.


Just so I can work out what kind of people we were dealing with in the Ange Out crowd:

How many of you really think the Premier League is the only place in the world with the master tacticians that came up with the idea of a deep narrow block in their own third and jump pressuring in the attacking third?

You guys REALLY think that this is the first time in any PROFESSIONAL league anywhere in the world that Ange has seen teams try this against his system?

The level of athleticism the players have in the Prem to execute this tactic is undoubtedly higher but also so is the relative level of player Ange can sign to beat it.

End of the video Adam Clery says that we can all see that these issues can be fixed with transfer windows and time learning how to adjust the system against different tactics. It’s not about Ange knowing the way to adjust to each counter tactic, it’s about the team having experience and individual capacity to adjust to each counter tactic. That takes time and transfer windows.
 
I'm one of the Ange out, the reason for this is
he says set pieces arn't important
-- they are and he has had lots of free midweeks where he could have worked on defending/attacking set plays
he only plays one way --- no change to 3 at the back, or 4 man midfield, NO change in formation when we don't have richy as CF (Son has never been a CF, he is good at running or cutting in from left, but NOT a CF)
he won't look at other seasons video's to see what is players natural way of playing, so he can put them in right position (see above re-Son)

He didn’t say that. He said he knows the reason for them going wrong but has other more pressing areas to deal with first. I want him to address them obviously but it’s obvious that we need to be working harder attacking as a team and defending as one too. I suspect he wants us to keep the ball better and in the opposition’s half. Do that and it minimises defensive set pieces straight away.
 
In the four leagues Ange has coached, in the second year he has won the title.

Let him do his thing.

I know what will happen if he gets us within a sniff of the title next season, all the doomers on here will be saying "Oh I have always backed Ange, he's a top Manager".

TWP's
 
Not one single post that isn’t doom and gloom even during a win (even the 4-0 Villa game)?!

Not one single post about absolutely anything Spurs that isn’t doubling down in negativity?!

Spurs fan?! I smell 🐂 💩
Haha you think there’s been a good performance in the few months since I’ve joined?

Was that the Villa game where we again did nothing in the first half, came and out and scored twice (great goal by Maddison only good thing he’s done all year and cross by Sarr) in a few minutes and then scored twice in injury time against 10 men?

No I don’t think so, I haven’t seen a complete team performance all year which as a fan I find extremely concerning and worrying which I’d expect to be echoed by fans of the team and not fans of an Australian on work experience.

As a fan I saw the biggest rivals we have, going for the title btw, stroll to a 3-0 lead at the lane without even doing much, and yet this guy is still supported by the likes of you, and I’m the negative one.

You carry on wishing and supporting what’s best for the manager and I’ll carryon doing the same for the team.
 
Explain what counter-pressing intends to do?

I'm well aware of counter-pressing and it is not the same as the counter attacking I am referring to.

Counter pressing is a method of winning the ball shortly after you lose it. High possession teams often employ counter-pressing, but not always as a method of generating chances, sometimes it's just a way of winning back possession quickly.

Teams like Liverpool and Newcastle use it as a method of generating chances high up the pitch. City use it to suffocate the opponent and win back possession quickly; they then look to circulate the ball, they don't generally attack immediately as the game becomes chaotic and as I've already explained, Pep prefers control to chaos.

Conversely, counter-attacking teams are teams who like to sit deep and hit teams on the counter as their main method of chance generation. Spurs under Mourinho would be the archetype here. Also Conte, Wolves under O'Neill, Moyes' West Ham, Forest, Brentford etc.

Yes teams like City and Liverpool employ counter pressing. But that's not the same as Brentford style counter-attacking. That much should be fucking obvious.

Now onto Brennan Johnson.

To me, he is a good player for a counter attacking team like Forest. Jose would probably have made good use of him. Brentford were after him for good reason.

What he is not useful for a high possession team that also employs counter-pressing.

For one, he's not a particularly good presser. He's not very strong in the challenge, his timing of pressing runs seems a bit off from his teammates, and frankly he often looks like he lacks effort defensively. Out of Son, Kulu, Richy and Brennan, Brennan is quite clearly the worst at high pressing.

Then you have the problem that he's not good at ball retention. You can't fire the ball into him and expect him to keep it and relieve pressure, like you can with Kulu, the only one of our forwards adept at ball retention.

Indeed, this is a huge part of our problems right now - our games are far too transitional because every time the ball gets into our front three it generally comes straight back, because other than Kulu they can't hold onto it and slow the game down.

Finally, the majority of our games are not transitional; they are against teams sitting deep in a low block. And what use is Brennan in those? How many games have we had against deep defences where Brennan looks useless, shunted out wide, denied any space, and not particularly good at passing or taking on his man, or crossing or shooting for that matter?

Upload all the stats you want, I watch the games with my eyes. Brennan will not be at the club in 2 years time unless we've reverted to another pragmatist like Jose.
 
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