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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Os22 said:
Keep seeing people ask for context, and talking about injuries as if it’s the only thing holding us back. Just had a very quick scan…

The last time we won two LEAGUE games in a row? September.

Before that? March. Before that December, before that? October.

Since October 2023, we have managed to win two league games in a row, four times.

Honestly, the whole thing people keep trying to point only to have ‘goals for’ and ‘Liverpool are good though’ thrown back at them is this isn’t a one off, we haven’t had any kind of consistent form about us for a very long time. Scroll back through our results, it’s atrocious reading and begun a long time ago.
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Not buying this injuries story, yes we have and had them like all teams.
Since ange has been in charge, it's been poor,chaotic and times bordering on insane.
 
I like him as a bloke so part of me still wants him to start getting it right, and to find some sort of plan B when A isn't working. But then I look at how utterly dog turd Manchester United are this season and yet somehow we're only a single point above them. We've currently lost more games than we have won. It's very close to being unacceptable, if it's not already.
 
RicharliSon said:
I like him as a bloke so part of me still wants him to start getting it right, and to find some sort of plan B when A isn't working. But then I look at how utterly dog turd Manchester United are this season and yet somehow we're only a single point above them. We've currently lost more games than we have won. It's very close to being unacceptable, if it's not already.
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He’s said he isn’t going to change what he’s doing. That says everything.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQF0hm7-V9o

compare this to postecoglou interviews looool worlds apart, because ones an actual football person and the other is a waffling salesman. slot actually talks about tactics and football, postecoglou gives generic shit about work harder or life guru advice that no one asked for or wanted.

its actually unbelievable that hes lasted this long when he was exposed over a year ago.

it must be embarrassing for our players to have someone like postecoglou.
 
skywalker68 said:
Not buying this injuries story, yes we have and had them like all teams.
Since ange has been in charge, it's been poor,chaotic and times bordering on insane.
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Lol - the latter doesn't negate the former.

It's utterly, stupendously ridiculous to suggest our injuries are "like all teams" - name a team that has lost it's first choice keeper and three first choice CB's? It's a simply catastrophic situation for ANY team in HISTORY to be in. Anybody who tries to downplay that is making themselves look like a fucking moron.

It's very simple to say "We were shit before injuries" - which our results were and you can very easily beat Ange with that stick because its sane and reasonable and very much true.

SO why bother making yourself look a tit?
 
Phomesy said:
Lol - the latter doesn't negate the former.

It's utterly, stupendously ridiculous to suggest our injuries are "like all teams" - name a team that has lost it's first choice keeper and three first choice CB's? It's a simply catastrophic situation for ANY team in HISTORY to be in. Anybody who tries to downplay that is making themselves look like a fucking moron.

It's very simple to say "We were shit before injuries" - which our results were and you can very easily beat Ange with that stick because its sane and reasonable and very much true.

SO why bother making yourself look a tit?
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Ok mate 👌
 
BJK said:
Here are PPM numbers for the managers we had in the last 20 years. Don't think I forgot any full-time manager, or something major is wrong with the data. But feel free to correct if you think so.

Santini: 13 points from 12 matches. 1.08/match
Jol: 171 points from 112 matches. 1.52/match
Ramos:41 points from 36 matches. 1.13/match
Redknapp: 250 points from 144 matches. 1.73/match
AVB: 99 points from 54 matches. 1.83/match
Pochettino:382 points from 202 matches. 1.89/match
Mourinho: 95 points from 58 matches. 1.63/match
Nuno: 15 points from 10 matches. 1.5/match
Conte: 105 points from 56 matches. 1.87/match
Ange: 89 points from 55 matches. 1.61/match

He's somewhere in the middle of the pack. He's way below Pochettino and Redknapp, considering how big of a sample they had compared to him. His sample size is identical with Conte's and AVB's, and he's significantly below them as well. Santini and Nuno had too small of samples to make a clear comparison, but they probably wouldn't be able to keep up with him regardless. So I consider him above these two. He's surprisingly almost identical with Mourinho right now. He's doing slightly better than Jol, but he may not be here long enough to catch him in the number of matches so it's hard to compare. Finally, he's obviously doing much better than Ramos.

*Solely league matches btw
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Here are number of goals conceded for the same managers. Again, feel free to correct if you spotted a major error.

Santini: 11 goals in 12 matches. 0.91
Jol:143 goals in 112 matches. 1.27
Ramos: 52 goals in 36 matches. 1.44
Redknapp: 161 goals in 144 matches. 1.11
AVB: 67 goals in 54 matches. 1.24
Pochettino: 206 goals in 202 matches. 1.01
Mourinho: 68 goals in 58 matches. 1.17
Nuno: 16 goals in 10 matches. 1.6
Conte: 64 goals in 56 matches. 1.14
Ange: 86 goals in 55 matches. 1.56

That looks way worse than PPM I'm afraid. Other than Ramos and Nuno (small sample) it's not even close. Three managers with nearly identical samples to Ange (AVB, Mourinho, Conte) all did significantly better.

Considering most of these managers did not have much success here, the fact that Ange is so behind them in this category is very concerning. I'm stating the obvious here, but I can't see how he can turn things around without any massive improvement on the defensive side. Simply trying to outscore the opposition won't cut it.
 
Phomesy said:
Lol - the latter doesn't negate the former.

It's utterly, stupendously ridiculous to suggest our injuries are "like all teams" - name a team that has lost it's first choice keeper and three first choice CB's? It's a simply catastrophic situation for ANY team in HISTORY to be in. Anybody who tries to downplay that is making themselves look like a fucking moron.

It's very simple to say "We were shit before injuries" - which our results were and you can very easily beat Ange with that stick because its sane and reasonable and very much true.

SO why bother making yourself look a tit?
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Do you think some of Ange’s tactics are partially responsible for the unusual amount of injuries?

Genuine question and not looking for insults or a cunt off
 
Bazali said:
Do you think some of Ange’s tactics are partially responsible for the unusual amount of injuries?

Genuine question and not looking for insults or a cunt off
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Oh for sure. Well, at least it seems very likely, if not probable, that its a contributory factor. Just like Lego Head running Saka into the ground probably contributed to his long term injury.

I'm not looking to defend Postecoglou's record here at all. I just think it's utterly preposterous to suggest that missing 10 first team players including most of your back 5 is an "all teams get them" type situation. It's not. It's a catastrophe and would be for any side.
 
daveyboy88 said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQF0hm7-V9o

compare this to postecoglou interviews looool worlds apart, because ones an actual football person and the other is a waffling salesman. slot actually talks about tactics and football, postecoglou gives generic shit about work harder or life guru advice that no one asked for or wanted.

its actually unbelievable that hes lasted this long when he was exposed over a year ago.

it must be embarrassing for our players to have someone like postecoglou.
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Wouldn't surprise me if all the tactics sort of bollocks were left for Mason and Jedinak to worry about and Ange's job is more like strolling around and shouting RUN RUN DONT STOP WE NEVER STOP etc Perhaps we are effectively managed by Mason already
 
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