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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
He only said that the squad had gone in the right direction. Hardly the glowing review that Ange expressed.
I can post a whole lot more by a cavalcade of previous mangers, buddy.

But the fact I can find that by Conte - the most volatile of managers - should be enough to indicate to you that trying to beat Postecoglou with this particular stick is the height of foolishness.

We know he wanted Gallagher, Neto and Eze as first teamers into this squad. He didn't get them. Like all our previous managers didn't get the players they wished for. And like all previous managers he talked up what he DID get.

Seriously of all the things to have a pop about? This is the lamest one of all. Steer clear
 
Ange won't get a job for a top half PL side after he's left spurs.
He'll disappear to some random league next. Maybe he'll give the New Zealand National League a go. Incepted in 2021 so no history or pressure.
It's probably a moot point. As time goes by I'm more convinced he'll get to stay at least through next season and maybe the one beyond that. Unless things completely fall apart and stay that way I don't think Levy or Munn really wants the aggravation of another change and the villagers would be out with pitchforks and torches if he tried to fire their favorite manager. My guess is he'll win enough to stay but not enough to make the people (like myself) happy who want to see Spurs take a big leap forward.
 
It's probably a moot point. As time goes by I'm more convinced he'll get to stay at least through next season and maybe the one beyond that. Unless things completely fall apart and stay that way I don't think Levy or Munn really wants the aggravation of another change and the villagers would be out with pitchforks and torches if he tried to fire their favorite manager. My guess is he'll win enough to stay but not enough to make the people (like myself) happy who want to see Spurs take a big leap forward.
Maybe Ange should take a leaf out of Chairman Mao's little red book.
 
Like all our previous managers didn't get the players they wished for.

Even so it's just nonsense to say that this squad isn't good enough for the top 10 after almost half the season. This is more or less the same squad that finished 2 points behind the top 4 last season. Yes, injuries have an effect but Newcastle have injury problems aswell (Pope, Botman, Wilson, Livramento etc) but are 5th now.
 
As someone in those videos posted, said:

"He's an amateur coach"

That's the feeling I get when he's faced with lots of losses and a shitload of injuries. He doesn't adapt. Why? He's a one trick pony. He doesn't know how to adapt. Because he's an amateur coach.
 
The problem as I see it is that Postecoglou has painted himself into a corner. He has publically stated his belief in his sytem and he's also said publically stated if he deviates from it the players will lose belief.

In reality, at least one player ( kulu) has publically said the opposite-that the team should adjust to the circumstances.

If he simply said : "Right lads, we're in a difficult situation with injures/players missing/the minutes I'm asking of you. We retain our core belief of attacking and pressing possession-based football but we need to be more judicious in when we play our way and when sit back or play direct"

I belive the players would not only not lose faith but would respond positively.

Yep. Surely at this point they’d be relieved?

He won’t though. Players will have had enough soon I would think. They won’t like being beaten before they even get out there because the tactics are a mess.

I suspect dragusin’s agent will be first to break ranks and say something. Especially as his client is injured and getting criticism in the press.
 
It’s not even him. Every ex footballer says the same thing and it’s another one here, the team has to change tactics each game. I can’t believe the players are enjoying this nonsense.
You adapt to the opposition whilst trying to exert your philosophy. Because that’s what they are doing. 🤦‍♀️

Even Troy Deeney is saying it. Lol.

Football is a results business first and foremost. This manager doesn’t even see the value of a point if it wasn’t earned the way he wanted.
 
Here is the Times article. So now it’s basically about him proving everyone else wrong.

Ange Postecoglou: I’ll go from joke to genius if I get it right at Spurs

Under-fire Tottenham head coach defends his refusal to compromise on his attacking style while key players are missing and insists squad is still behind him

Postecoglou could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolves

Ange Postecoglou has suggested he could enjoy the last laugh as a “genius” if he sticks to his guns in the face of critics ridiculing his adventurous playing style at Tottenham Hotspur.
The head coach believes that the steps he is taking with his players will eventually pay off as they learn through their experiences, giving him a full-strength squad that can be easily rotated between matches.
However, in another blow for Postecoglou, Tottenham could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolverhampton Wanderers and have been investigating why their players have suffered recurrences of muscular issues. The immediate concern is a run of four defeats and 19 goals conceded in nine matches across competitions since a 4-0 win over Manchester City in November, prompting criticism of Postecoglou’s failure to compromise on his methodology while key players are missing.
“There’s always people in life [who are] looked at a bit curiously because they do things a bit differently and they’re a bit of a joke until they get it right, then all of a sudden they’re a genius,” Postecoglou said. “That’s probably relevant to us right now.”
Postecoglou has the support of the club’s hierarchy, which is not looking to change head coach, but there is an understanding that results must improve. He has asked the club to strengthen when the transfer window opens next week and is confident his players still back him and his style.
“The first thing you look at as a manager is, are the players still responding to this, are they looking to an alternative out there? I haven’t sensed that at all,” Postecoglou said. “It’s very easy to, because it’s human nature to think we need to do something different or we’re obviously undermanned, let’s change something.

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it,” Postecoglou says

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it. But it’s up to me to guide them through that and show them all these things are temporary. If we do get through in a positive way, the bonus and the benefit for us is that it makes you stronger. Because you know whatever you face in the future, you’ve been through worse and overcome it.”
After Wolves, Spurs meet Newcastle United and Woolwich in the Premier League, Liverpool in their Carabao Cup semi-final and Tamworth in the FA Cup third round . They have work to do to finish in the top eight of the Europa League group stage, thereby avoiding a play-off tie.
“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time because other people take a lead off that and rightly so,” Postecoglou said. “I’ve often said in the past, we’re in a tough spot and there is a big fight at hand. But I love that. I love that I’m right in the middle of it and my job is to try to get us out of it.”
He could have to field another makeshift back line on Sunday after Ben Davies had a setback in training and Radu Dragusin suffered an ankle problem in the 1-0 defeat by Nottingham Forest on Thursday.
Micky van de Ven has a hamstring issue and Cristian Romero now has a quad injury. “It’s happened too often where guys have come back and they’re the ones who are missing,” Postecoglou said. “Just about all of them are recurrences of an injury, apart from Guglielmo Vicario [the goalkeeper, who has a broken ankle]. It’s something we’re looking at and why they’re happening
 
Oh good, he's going to get yet another chance and piss away our next few games. I'm starting to wonder whether our board are just clueless or some sort of Woolwich sleeper cell put in place to slowly kill us off with 8 (some might say 23) years of utterly absurd decision making.

For the record i dont think even this teflon bluffer would survive a defeat at home to Wolves.
 
Had a dream last night where I was in a pub full of Spurs fans and I was taking the piss out of them and saying "Ange Out". On TV we were losing 5-0 to some Scottish team in Europe. Someone got so frustrated they threw a £1 coin at the TV and it lodged in the TV.

Is this a premonition or am I sub-consciously Ange Out? Or am I just spending too much time on here?
 
Yep. Surely at this point they’d be relieved?

He won’t though. Players will have had enough soon I would think. They won’t like being beaten before they even get out there because the tactics are a mess.

I suspect dragusin’s agent will be first to break ranks and say something. Especially as his client is injured and getting criticism in the press.
I think the players have already had enough. Look at the Forest game. The players are doing what Ange says but not with any real conviction. They are going through the motions but don't seem to be busting a gut. If you are just 1% below your opponents work rate you will be exposed and you also risk injury to yourself. Couple that with low confidence through loss after loss and you suddenly have a team that look beat before a ball is kicked. No one person is to blame. This is a collective effort that starts with Levy and his terrible, cheap, entertainment (not football) appointments. Their effort to hire a manager who was probably low on the pecking order due to the fact nobody wants to manage Spurs unless you see it as a final job to boost your pension. The awful recruitment that is now a consistent theme and finally a manager who is simply not good enough for the Premier League regardless of whether the squad is hurting with injuries. This is as low as I can remember feeling about my club and I was a season ticket holder through the Sugar years. Expectations were different back then but it never felt completely hopeless.
 
Had a dream last night where I was in a pub full of Spurs fans and I was taking the piss out of them and saying "Ange Out". On TV we were losing 5-0 to some Scottish team in Europe. Someone got so frustrated they threw a £1 coin at the TV and it lodged in the TV.

Is this a premonition or am I sub-consciously Ange Out? Or am I just spending too much time on here?

Never take dreams literally.

I did an online masters on dream deciphering during COVID. So I’m pretty much an expert in this field.

So this means you want to leave your life partner and start a new life in Sweden. Maybe with a Scottish person??

Good luck!
 
Had a dream last night where I was in a pub full of Spurs fans and I was taking the piss out of them and saying "Ange Out". On TV we were losing 5-0 to some Scottish team in Europe. Someone got so frustrated they threw a £1 coin at the TV and it lodged in the TV.

Is this a premonition or am I sub-consciously Ange Out? Or am I just spending too much time on here?
Lol. Snap! I dreamt we were 4-0 down to Tamworth and down to 6 men due to hamstring injuries
 
The sensible thing to do 💪💪


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