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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Juno said:
This line that we can beat anyone on our day under Big Ange doesn’t exactly stand up to scrutiny. The Top 6 in the league at the moment are Dippers, Chavs, Forest, Woolwich, Newcastle and Bournemouth.

We’ve played all 6 now in the league once this season. We’ve lost all 6 too.
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And nearly all those games we’ve been schooled either tactically or just been whipped. In most of those games we barely looked like scoring.
 
NorthernSpur said:
Had a dream last night where I was in a pub full of Spurs fans and I was taking the piss out of them and saying "Ange Out". On TV we were losing 5-0 to some Scottish team in Europe. Someone got so frustrated they threw a £1 coin at the TV and it lodged in the TV.

Is this a premonition or am I sub-consciously Ange Out? Or am I just spending too much time on here?
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I had a dream there was a wolf and a bear in my garden. I definitely spend too much time thinking about a group of millionaires kicking a ball about who have no clue I exist.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Here is the Times article. So now it’s basically about him proving everyone else wrong.

Ange Postecoglou: I’ll go from joke to genius if I get it right at Spurs

Under-fire Tottenham head coach defends his refusal to compromise on his attacking style while key players are missing and insists squad is still behind him

Postecoglou could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolves

Ange Postecoglou has suggested he could enjoy the last laugh as a “genius” if he sticks to his guns in the face of critics ridiculing his adventurous playing style at Tottenham Hotspur.
The head coach believes that the steps he is taking with his players will eventually pay off as they learn through their experiences, giving him a full-strength squad that can be easily rotated between matches.
However, in another blow for Postecoglou, Tottenham could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolverhampton Wanderers and have been investigating why their players have suffered recurrences of muscular issues. The immediate concern is a run of four defeats and 19 goals conceded in nine matches across competitions since a 4-0 win over Manchester City in November, prompting criticism of Postecoglou’s failure to compromise on his methodology while key players are missing.
“There’s always people in life [who are] looked at a bit curiously because they do things a bit differently and they’re a bit of a joke until they get it right, then all of a sudden they’re a genius,” Postecoglou said. “That’s probably relevant to us right now.”
Postecoglou has the support of the club’s hierarchy, which is not looking to change head coach, but there is an understanding that results must improve. He has asked the club to strengthen when the transfer window opens next week and is confident his players still back him and his style.
“The first thing you look at as a manager is, are the players still responding to this, are they looking to an alternative out there? I haven’t sensed that at all,” Postecoglou said. “It’s very easy to, because it’s human nature to think we need to do something different or we’re obviously undermanned, let’s change something.

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it,” Postecoglou says

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it. But it’s up to me to guide them through that and show them all these things are temporary. If we do get through in a positive way, the bonus and the benefit for us is that it makes you stronger. Because you know whatever you face in the future, you’ve been through worse and overcome it.”
After Wolves, Spurs meet Newcastle United and Woolwich in the Premier League, Liverpool in their Carabao Cup semi-final and Tamworth in the FA Cup third round . They have work to do to finish in the top eight of the Europa League group stage, thereby avoiding a play-off tie.
“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time because other people take a lead off that and rightly so,” Postecoglou said. “I’ve often said in the past, we’re in a tough spot and there is a big fight at hand. But I love that. I love that I’m right in the middle of it and my job is to try to get us out of it.”
He could have to field another makeshift back line on Sunday after Ben Davies had a setback in training and Radu Dragusin suffered an ankle problem in the 1-0 defeat by Nottingham Forest on Thursday.
Micky van de Ven has a hamstring issue and Cristian Romero now has a quad injury. “It’s happened too often where guys have come back and they’re the ones who are missing,” Postecoglou said. “Just about all of them are recurrences of an injury, apart from Guglielmo Vicario [the goalkeeper, who has a broken ankle]. It’s something we’re looking at and why they’re happening
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I cringe every time he does an article or a pressy.
 
Shadydan said:
The sensible thing to do 💪💪


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So he gets sacked if results don't improve... who woulda thought?
 
_mehstg said:
I think the players have already had enough. Look at the Forest game. The players are doing what Ange says but not with any real conviction. They are going through the motions but don't seem to be busting a gut. If you are just 1% below your opponents work rate you will be exposed and you also risk injury to yourself. Couple that with low confidence through loss after loss and you suddenly have a team that look beat before a ball is kicked. No one person is to blame. This is a collective effort that starts with Levy and his terrible, cheap, entertainment (not football) appointments. Their effort to hire a manager who was probably low on the pecking order due to the fact nobody wants to manage Spurs unless you see it as a final job to boost your pension. The awful recruitment that is now a consistent theme and finally a manager who is simply not good enough for the Premier League regardless of whether the squad is hurting with injuries. This is as low as I can remember feeling about my club and I was a season ticket holder through the Sugar years. Expectations were different back then but it never felt completely hopeless.
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I’m not sure, it was pretty bad back then, maybe because we had our expectations ground to dust, but I always felt Sugar would sell if enough pressure was applied. But this lot are a different beast. I just don’t see them going anywhere.
 
HampshireSpur said:
I'd give Ange the cups, he did get us to the CC semis after all. I don't expect much though!

I'd be tempted to keep him barring a catastrophic collapse in league form, given the lack of available and appetising options.

If he wins a trophy, all is forgiven.

If we finish say 10th with no trophies (much more likely) then give Angelos the boot at the end of the season having made contact with various people. For me, Iraola, Frank and Silva - in that order. Perhaps De Zerbi if he can be tempted from Marseille.

As it stands I feel he doesn't last out the season - unless our league form improves Agent Mason shall be seen sooner rather than later.
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“Catastrophic collapse” how much worse must we get 😀
 
Sir Ledders said:

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What I don’t get is how can you still support this guy when the facts are there in black and white. 29 points is a shocking return. We can barely string any decent run of performances and wins. This is whether we have for squad or not. In a long season you have to accept players will get injured. Hopefully your planning in the summer for such things will stand you in good stead. Yet now we have people saying we don’t have the depth or quality. Well you can’t on the one hand say things like “ happy with the squad” and then say we need more players.
 
Maureen said:
What I don’t get is how can you still support this guy when the facts are there in black and white. 29 points is a shocking return. We can barely string any decent run of performances and wins. This is whether we have for squad or not. In a long season you have to accept players will get injured. Hopefully your planning in the summer for such things will stand you in good stead. Yet now we have people saying we don’t have the depth or quality. Well you can’t on the one hand say things like “ happy with the squad” and then say we need more players.
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But we've scored the most goals in the league

That counts for more than points

Points are a lazy barometer for success

Vibes are what matter
 
Tomo said:
Sugar also was a lot closer to the 80’s when we were more a club winning things. The shock of decline under him was more steep, it was a winners to losers situation. This is more like the frog in the pan with the heat slowly increasing.
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I tuned out during the 90s and got back in with kids 7 or so years ago. And it’s been all downhill. So I’ve had two nice downhill periods … 84- early 90s. And then 2017 onwards
 
Brian Fantana said:
I’m not sure, it was pretty bad back then, maybe because we had our expectations ground to dust, but I always felt Sugar would sell if enough pressure was applied. But this lot are a different beast. I just don’t see them going anywhere.
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In the Sugar years, finishing 6th/7th and qualifying for UEFA Cup was the equivalent of winning the Premier League today. Our expectations were low back then but it never felt hopeless. As you rightly point out this is probably to do with the current custodians looking to maximise their profit if/when they sell. Their strategy is to generate Champions League revenue via alternative sources. Karts, hotels, concerts, NFL. All of this is guaranteed where Champions League isn't, even if you spend the most money and have the highest wage bill. Obviously it helps but it's not guaranteed. And that's the key word, guaranteed. Levy will never spend 100m on a player and 300k a week on wages because it doesn't guarantee a return on the investment. Good chance such a player would improve us but it's not guaranteed. Levy does not do chance though.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Here is the Times article. So now it’s basically about him proving everyone else wrong.

Ange Postecoglou: I’ll go from joke to genius if I get it right at Spurs

Under-fire Tottenham head coach defends his refusal to compromise on his attacking style while key players are missing and insists squad is still behind him

Postecoglou could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolves

Ange Postecoglou has suggested he could enjoy the last laugh as a “genius” if he sticks to his guns in the face of critics ridiculing his adventurous playing style at Tottenham Hotspur.
The head coach believes that the steps he is taking with his players will eventually pay off as they learn through their experiences, giving him a full-strength squad that can be easily rotated between matches.
However, in another blow for Postecoglou, Tottenham could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolverhampton Wanderers and have been investigating why their players have suffered recurrences of muscular issues. The immediate concern is a run of four defeats and 19 goals conceded in nine matches across competitions since a 4-0 win over Manchester City in November, prompting criticism of Postecoglou’s failure to compromise on his methodology while key players are missing.
“There’s always people in life [who are] looked at a bit curiously because they do things a bit differently and they’re a bit of a joke until they get it right, then all of a sudden they’re a genius,” Postecoglou said. “That’s probably relevant to us right now.”
Postecoglou has the support of the club’s hierarchy, which is not looking to change head coach, but there is an understanding that results must improve. He has asked the club to strengthen when the transfer window opens next week and is confident his players still back him and his style.
“The first thing you look at as a manager is, are the players still responding to this, are they looking to an alternative out there? I haven’t sensed that at all,” Postecoglou said. “It’s very easy to, because it’s human nature to think we need to do something different or we’re obviously undermanned, let’s change something.

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it,” Postecoglou says

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it. But it’s up to me to guide them through that and show them all these things are temporary. If we do get through in a positive way, the bonus and the benefit for us is that it makes you stronger. Because you know whatever you face in the future, you’ve been through worse and overcome it.”
After Wolves, Spurs meet Newcastle United and Woolwich in the Premier League, Liverpool in their Carabao Cup semi-final and Tamworth in the FA Cup third round . They have work to do to finish in the top eight of the Europa League group stage, thereby avoiding a play-off tie.
“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time because other people take a lead off that and rightly so,” Postecoglou said. “I’ve often said in the past, we’re in a tough spot and there is a big fight at hand. But I love that. I love that I’m right in the middle of it and my job is to try to get us out of it.”
He could have to field another makeshift back line on Sunday after Ben Davies had a setback in training and Radu Dragusin suffered an ankle problem in the 1-0 defeat by Nottingham Forest on Thursday.
Micky van de Ven has a hamstring issue and Cristian Romero now has a quad injury. “It’s happened too often where guys have come back and they’re the ones who are missing,” Postecoglou said. “Just about all of them are recurrences of an injury, apart from Guglielmo Vicario [the goalkeeper, who has a broken ankle]. It’s something we’re looking at and why they’re happening
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he really is a guru and a wordsmith (as well as a ..ahem..football manager?)... i'd "run through walls for that guy" .. really, I would. :bow:
 
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