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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

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“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time as people respond to that” - said Postecoglu, coughing and staring at his shoes.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Here is the Times article. So now it’s basically about him proving everyone else wrong.

Ange Postecoglou: I’ll go from joke to genius if I get it right at Spurs

Under-fire Tottenham head coach defends his refusal to compromise on his attacking style while key players are missing and insists squad is still behind him

Postecoglou could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolves

Ange Postecoglou has suggested he could enjoy the last laugh as a “genius” if he sticks to his guns in the face of critics ridiculing his adventurous playing style at Tottenham Hotspur.
The head coach believes that the steps he is taking with his players will eventually pay off as they learn through their experiences, giving him a full-strength squad that can be easily rotated between matches.
However, in another blow for Postecoglou, Tottenham could be without a fit centre back for Sunday’s home match against Wolverhampton Wanderers and have been investigating why their players have suffered recurrences of muscular issues. The immediate concern is a run of four defeats and 19 goals conceded in nine matches across competitions since a 4-0 win over Manchester City in November, prompting criticism of Postecoglou’s failure to compromise on his methodology while key players are missing.
“There’s always people in life [who are] looked at a bit curiously because they do things a bit differently and they’re a bit of a joke until they get it right, then all of a sudden they’re a genius,” Postecoglou said. “That’s probably relevant to us right now.”
Postecoglou has the support of the club’s hierarchy, which is not looking to change head coach, but there is an understanding that results must improve. He has asked the club to strengthen when the transfer window opens next week and is confident his players still back him and his style.
“The first thing you look at as a manager is, are the players still responding to this, are they looking to an alternative out there? I haven’t sensed that at all,” Postecoglou said. “It’s very easy to, because it’s human nature to think we need to do something different or we’re obviously undermanned, let’s change something.

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it,” Postecoglou says

“The players still want to tackle this the way that we are tackling it. But it’s up to me to guide them through that and show them all these things are temporary. If we do get through in a positive way, the bonus and the benefit for us is that it makes you stronger. Because you know whatever you face in the future, you’ve been through worse and overcome it.”
After Wolves, Spurs meet Newcastle United and Woolwich in the Premier League, Liverpool in their Carabao Cup semi-final and Tamworth in the FA Cup third round . They have work to do to finish in the top eight of the Europa League group stage, thereby avoiding a play-off tie.
“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time because other people take a lead off that and rightly so,” Postecoglou said. “I’ve often said in the past, we’re in a tough spot and there is a big fight at hand. But I love that. I love that I’m right in the middle of it and my job is to try to get us out of it.”
He could have to field another makeshift back line on Sunday after Ben Davies had a setback in training and Radu Dragusin suffered an ankle problem in the 1-0 defeat by Nottingham Forest on Thursday.
Micky van de Ven has a hamstring issue and Cristian Romero now has a quad injury. “It’s happened too often where guys have come back and they’re the ones who are missing,” Postecoglou said. “Just about all of them are recurrences of an injury, apart from Guglielmo Vicario [the goalkeeper, who has a broken ankle]. It’s something we’re looking at and why they’re happening
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This bloke is on some kind of arrogant self-important (impossible) mission to change the face of football in The EPL and he is using our club as the guineapig!
 
Can see us losing at least 3 from next 4 games. Pool is on another level. Arteta and Howe will have no moral issues with giving us a ball and beat us in Nuno style. Wolves - I don't watch them, but blueprint how to beat us is right there to be taken and executed - so unless Deki/Madders/Solanke deliver some magic moment, won't be surprised with another loss.
 
malin said:
Can see us losing at least 3 from next 4 games. Pool is on another level. Arteta and Howe will have no moral issues with giving us a ball and beat us in Nuno style. Wolves - I don't watch them, but blueprint how to beat us is right there to be taken and executed - so unless Deki/Madders/Solanke deliver some magic moment, won't be surprised with another loss.
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When opposition players are openly saying they know how to beat us, continuing to do the same thing game after game is utter negligence.
 
Shadydan said:
The sensible thing to do 💪💪


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I guess it's sensible to not bring the new guy in yet who hasn't got a Centre half.

Better to let this guy drown on his sinking ship at our expense.
 
Plus Power said:
He should have been gone after shipping 6 goals at home. The fact he even got this game is a miracle in itself after the atrocious results he's been getting. If he isn't gone by tomorrow morning then this club is completely lost at every single level.
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Unfortunately it isn’t happening. For some reason there are many fans want him to stay for a number of reasons. Worst being who do we get in now?
The board must have told him he is safe and he must given them some yarn about injuries. He is a good talker of BS.
 
This "X amount of games to decide his fate" stuff is totally pointless, if not counterproductive. I genuinely don't see what it accomplishes other than causing additional emotional distress in him.

If you already have strong convictions about the manager in charge, think that his approach will yield desirable outcomes in the long run, why are you even considering holding a figurative gun to guy's head? Let him get on with it, until you start doubting the viability of him altogether. Making such a huge decision based on such a small sample would be incredibly shortsighted.

Conversely, if you're already concerned about how things are going, if you have serious doubts about the aforementioned approach, what are you waiting for? What would a one-off result accomplish?

Like I said in another thread, they should have been well prepared for this during the summer. This mid-table form had been going on for 6 months at that time. It carrying on to this season was a real possibility that they couldn't possibly be unaware of. If they refused to acknowledge it at the time because they believed that he's their guy, then it makes no sense to make a decision about him based on a handful of matches now. Because nothing has fundamentally changed since then.

Stick with him until the summer, and then let him go unless he pulls a 180 in some of his habits and ways of thinking.
 
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dudu said:
No it isn't.
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It's more like asking Bolt to pull a sub 10 second 100m without a warm up and no warning the timer is about to start.

Dudski said:
It's probably a moot point. As time goes by I'm more convinced he'll get to stay at least through next season and maybe the one beyond that. Unless things completely fall apart and stay that way I don't think Levy or Munn really wants the aggravation of another change and the villagers would be out with pitchforks and torches if he tried to fire their favorite manager. My guess is he'll win enough to stay but not enough to make the people (like myself) happy who want to see Spurs take a big leap forward.
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No chance he makes it to the end of the season as there's absolutely no chance he turns this shit around now.
May beat wolves but Newcastle and arse will comfortably hold us off and take their chances.
We can't be toiling in the lower half.
 
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Oh good, he's going to get yet another chance and piss away our next few games. I'm starting to wonder whether our board are just clueless or some sort of Woolwich sleeper cell put in place to slowly kill us off with 8 (some might say 23) years of utterly absurd decision making.

For the record i dont think even this teflon bluffer would survive a defeat at home to Wolves.
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When he gets sacked he won't get another PL job.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I was at Liverpool last week. The lack of organisation and defensive nous was like something from an under 12s game.

Ange has his qualities, but he's too stubborn and inflexible for things to work out at this level. The organisation is the worst I've seen since Ardiles (who was incidentally the first manager I can remember). As Carragher and others have said we don't respond to the game state at all.

I've definitely come to the conclusion he isn't the answer but I wonder how bad it has to get for him to get sacked. If we have our crazy up and down form I'd keep him 'til the end of the season (lack of available options mainly) but obviously no manager survives 5 in 6 losses or such like.
 
HampshireSpur said:
When he gets sacked he won't get another PL job.

I couldn't believe what I was watching when I was at Liverpool last week. The lack of organisation and defensive nous was like something from an under 12s game.

Ange has his qualities, but he's too stubborn and inflexible for things to work out at this level. The organisation is the worst I've seen since Ardiles (who was incidentally the first manager I can remember). As Carragher and others have said we don't respond to the game state at all.

I've definitely come to the conclusion he isn't the answer but I wonder how bad it has to get for him to get sacked. If we have our crazy up and down form I'd keep him 'til the end of the season (lack of available options mainly) but obviously no manager survives 5 in 6 losses or such like.
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He keeps saying the gap to the top 4 isn’t that big. It’s getting bigger with every fucking loss you whopper, especially when you lose to teams that are competing for those spots.

To have a hope of 5th we can maybe lose 2/3 more games this season and must beat all the rivals for those positions.

We will like lose 2 or 3 of our next fucking 4 fixtures. 🤦‍♀️
 
Murphy said:
He keeps saying the gap to the top 4 isn’t that big. It’s getting bigger with every fucking loss you whopper, especially when you lose to teams that are competing for those spots.

To have a hope of 5th we can maybe lose 2/3 more games this season and must beat all the rivals for those positions.

We will like lose 2 or 3 of our next fucking 4 fixtures. 🤦‍♀️
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Yep tricky run of fixtures coming up, he's under huge pressure.
 
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