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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113

pulp fiction they speak english in what GIF
 
I’d love to be proven wrong but I’ve felt this sense of inevitability many times before, that point where you struggle to see a manager turning a situation around, I witnessed Hoddles last game in charge at home to Southampton and everyone knew he was toast that day and in all honesty in the build up to that game .
I fear something similar tomorrow, especially given how Wolves are suddenly now in a bit of no lose situation after recent results.

Personally I’d still rather he saw out this season, firstly because I’m sick of caretakers and secondly I’d look at Man Utd right now for the dangers of bringing a permanent manager in mid season, Amorims reputation is already taking a battering unfairly IMO given he has had no chance to bring anyone in, although maybe you could argue he needs to adjust his thinking and not rigidly stick with his preferred set up no matter what like Ange.

The failure to adapt has been alarming and incredibly disappointing, I thought there was more to him than this and I don’t expect the Aussie Ossie to be our manager next season, but if he’s given the chance to see this season out let’s at least try to enjoy going behind at Tamworth and losing 14-9 on aggregate to Bilbao in the Europea league Quarter final, oh and of course beating our neighbours in the league cup final🤪.
 
You almost have to prepare for this as soon as the new man is in - what’s plan B if this doesn’t work?

Levy like Ange, doesn’t do plan B though
Sometimes he does.

Jose was sat in Pochs office chair while it was still spinning.

Conte had his toupee warmer on the desk before Nuno could even empty his drawers.

In both cases the successor was clearly plotted and in place. I suspect he's out of ideas this time though, unless Paratatici is still kicking about in the shadows
 
Levy don’t work weekends ….. :levylol:

I'll never forget walking down the road early Sunday morning 2008, after an all nighter, I was feeling spaced out and starting a downer, walked past a board outside a shop that had the headline on it that ramos had been sacked and we brought redknapp in. Things had been so miserable under ramos that it immediately got my mood back up and went on a bender instead of going home lol. So anyway levy did his thing at least once on a weekend
 
This "X amount of games to decide his fate" stuff is totally pointless, if not counterproductive. I genuinely don't see what it accomplishes other than causing additional emotional distress in him.

If you already have strong convictions about the manager in charge, think that his approach will yield desirable outcomes in the long run, why are you even considering holding a figurative gun to guy's head? Let him get on with it, until you start doubting the viability of him altogether. Making such a huge decision based on such a small sample would be incredibly shortsighted.

Conversely, if you're already concerned about how things are going, if you have serious doubts about the aforementioned approach, what are you waiting for? What would a one-off result accomplish?

Like I said in another thread, they should have been well prepared for this during the summer. This mid-table form had been going on for 6 months at that time. It carrying on to this season was a real possibility that they couldn't possibly be unaware of. If they refused to acknowledge it at the time because they believed that he's their guy, then it makes no sense to make a decision about him based on a handful of matches now. Because nothing has fundamentally changed since then.

Stick with him until the summer, and then let him go unless he pulls a 180 in some of his habits and ways of thinking.
"Ange always wins in his second season". That was the talk.

The shitty form from gameweek 11 last season could be blamed on first season syndrome. The players need time to adapt, he needs another transfer window etc.

Now we are halfway through the second season and things have got worse. Near relegation form in the league and soon out of the LC which has been the only positive (thanks to the awful Manchester clubs).

When to pull the trigger is now a critical decision. You don't just let Ange rumble on for the sake of it until the summer. There is a lot of football to be played and we are 9 points above the drop zone. I would hope the Board are now well advanced in their replacement search and have drawn a hard line in the sand for his sacking.

I personally think he's gone if he loses the next two, especially being home games. "New manager bounce" in time for the Liverpool and Woolwich games.
 
Unfortunately it isn’t happening. For some reason there are many fans want him to stay for a number of reasons. Worst being who do we get in now?
The board must have told him he is safe and he must given them some yarn about injuries. He is a good talker of BS.
Credit where it is due, he came in and told fans what they wanted to hear and created a personality they related to. They would fire a manager they didn't know with his record and approach, but they'll never want to fire "Big Ange".
 
Does Levy really have a strong tendency to let interims hang around for long stretches? I don't see it.

Jol immediately replaced Santini.
Ramos immediately replaced Jol.
Redknapp immediately replaced Ramos.
Mourinho immediately replaced Pochettino.
Conte immediately replaced Nuno.

It seems that people's judgment is skewed by the most recent Stellini-Mason debacle and Mourinho's sacking right before the cup final. Even in the latter case, with the obvious exception of the final, there wasn't much football left to be played. It's not like he sacked JM in October and let Mason loose for majority of the season.

I especially think that the aforementioned debacle is something he'd avoid at all costs this time. Now this by itself doesn't guarantee a satisfying appointment, in fact the chances of him going for a low hanging fruit is extremely high. That's why, despite everything, I'm still wary of sacking Ange until the summer. But if Ange indeed gets the sack, I'd be really surprised to see Levy let an interim finish the season. He knows how bad of a look it is.
 
When opposition players are openly saying they know how to beat us, continuing to do the same thing game after game is utter negligence.

I, like many on here, know next to nothing about setting up a professional football team, but I am very confident I could get one to score a goal against us. We make the same mistakes all the time and give up the same chances game after game. Every goal our defenders are either running back towards the goal like Forest.


View: https://x.com/EBL2017/status/1872667062889517358

or there are multiple players on a back post v one defender to put the ball in the back of the net.
 
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I can't see past a loss to Wolves being the loss that does it.
Why even let him carry on if we lose to them?
I think he should have been sacked already mate, you’re preaching to the choir.

I have no idea how this man is still employed at this football club, the Forest loss should have been the nail in the coffin.

It doesn’t even make sense letting him stay until the cup game because if he wins that by some absolute miracle but continues to lose in the league, does that mean we still keep him here?

Sacking him is the only logical move now imo.
 
“My body language and how I speak are really important at this time as people respond to that” - said Postecoglu, coughing and staring at his shoes.
this is even more proof that hes nothing more than a motivational speaker. he actually believes this shit.

no you fat cunt! whats really important is having a system that doesnt kill our own team, whats really important is having a fucking football manager and not some waffling fat cunt.
 
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