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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I, like many on here, know next to nothing about setting up a professional football team, but I am very confident I could get one to score a goal against us. We make the same mistakes all the time and give up the same chances game after game. Every goal our defenders are either running back towards the goal like Forest.


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or there are multiple players on a back post v one defender to put the ball in the back of the net.

This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
 
If we already have a full time manager to replace Ange, then the best time is to get him in now, so that he can get in 2/3 players in the coming TW to steady the ship until the summer, when he can replace more players in the squad
The idea is that this young squad should be able to adapt to any future attacking manager. Surely.

We can change managers but we can’t change overall styles because that’s what’s fucked us for the last five years.

Add and enhance the squad and move players on where needed but we need to keep a core nucleus that we build for success with.
 
This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.

And before checking his run he was hardly busting a gut to get back
 
I think this narrative that he's going to be sacked any day now has come solely from this thread and people backing up eachother's views. All the word coming from anyone within the club is that they've no intention of sacking Ange mid season and might even back him in January with more players
Ange is saying he needs more players. The noise from the media seems to be we are expected to be quiet.

And this fucker is almost at 50% for losses this season. Of course he’s on the cusp of being sacked.
 
We say that after almost every game.
Gonna be right eventually
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Long term decision. Sacking him now with no real plan is just a much bigger mess. We have no fit centre backs atm so no manager is going to come in and quickly get us results. Until we get our players back then we are a midtable team at best.

Best to just let Ange ride out this spell of injuries and see where we are come May. Tthen make the correct calculated decision when you have more evidence of exactly where we are in this rebuild. Sacking him now and gambling on a free agent like Potter could risk everything... If we are replacing Ange then lets make sure we get the right man (Iraolo) in for next season

Must stink walking around with your head up your own arsehole.

If you think things will improve you're not optimistic, you're just flat out wrong.

Token wins against fodder like Southampton are only pulling the wool over the eyes of fans like yourself. Ones who would clearly rather lose every game than back down and admit that he has to go.
 
We say that after almost every game.
There's something extremely odd about this one over the rest.
He's cast a spell over a lot of people to hide his lack of talent and it seems Levy is under that spell too.

Or, just maybe, Levy is leaving it to the others and the others aren't as adept at getting rid when the time is right.
If that is the case, they all need to be sacked ASAP.
 
This goal wasn’t a structural or tactical issue imo, it was a decision making issue.

Udogie has Elanga covered and for what reason I don’t know, he checks his run to play offside? I’m not really sure why he checked his run but that’s the reason the goal happened.
Thank god I wasn’t the only one who saw that. I felt like he let up and could’ve blocked that shot or at the very least attempted to and maybe thrown him off the shot. Instead he just eased up as though he was out of the play.
 
So Mason in charge for the NLD in January? TRENCHES!
No more Mason. It doesn't do him any good professionally and probably is unhelpful because he becomes some version of "the old family retainer" instead of an upcoming coach. It's time for him to go manage somewhere. But I don't think it will come to any of that. The injured players will return and Spurs will come up with some wins and everything will go forward with Postecoglou. I think the owner and board have decided Postecoglou's the guy and they aren't going to be open to removing him. He'll have to have a full season with a healthy squad and transfer help before they'll make a decision. I can argue that he never should have been hired in the first place, and equally that it makes no sense to fire him until its demonstrated the system won't work.
 
It's interesting reading the comments in here today. I think I started a thread on this and so did someone else but what's an acceptable outcome for a season for us now?

Is it at least top 6 in the league, a good run / win in a cup (doesn't matter which one, Audi Cup doesn't count)? What do you think?
 
There's something extremely odd about this one over the rest.
He's cast a spell over a lot of people to hide his lack of talent and it seems Levy is under that spell too.

Or, just maybe, Levy is leaving it to the others and the others aren't as adept at getting rid when the time is right.
If that is the case, they all need to be sacked ASAP.
Yeah I don't get it with Ange. Somehow he has this happy chappy image when he's mostly a miserable cunt in interviews and pressers.

I also find it a bit cringey that he gets to experiment with his kamikaze brand of football in England at our expense. It's very small time. No other "big" club would tolerate this mess.

His interview after United, "Are you not entertained?" and all that bollocks was embarrassing after only being saved from yet another complete collapse by a freak goal direct from a corner.

My biggest gripe is his stubborness and that is ultimately what will get him sacked. Yes we have had terrible luck with injuries but a better manager gets us more points on the board by adapting to the players at his disposal.
 
Ange is saying he needs more players. The noise from the media seems to be we are expected to be quiet.

And this fucker is almost at 50% for losses this season. Of course he’s on the cusp of being sacked.

I actually don’t think he is on the cusp of being sacked. I really don’t.

I think Levy:

1. Has been conned by Ange into believing that it’s only injuries that are causing these terrible results in 2024.
2. After the Nuno/Ange hirings he is aware that very few decent managers are willing to work with him.
3. Remains unwilling to buy out the contract of a currently employed manager.

He would rather ride it out and pray that a miracle happens even if it means throwing the entire season away. Levy used to be ruthless with managers but the last two searches were so humiliating (with candidates turning down) that he’s gone completely soft.
 
I actually don’t think he is on the cusp of being sacked. I really don’t.

I think Levy:

1. Has been conned by Ange into believing that it’s only injuries that are causing these terrible results in 2024.
2. After the Nuno/Ange hirings he is aware that very few decent managers are willing to work with him.
3. Remains unwilling to buy out the contract of a currently employed manager.

He would rather ride it out and pray that a miracle happens even if it means throwing the entire season away. Levy used to be ruthless with managers but the last two searches were so humiliating (with candidates turning down) that he’s gone completely soft.

Yeah I’ve been thinking similar. But if the results don’t change then he will act, he’ll have all and sundry in his ear and will sack him eventually.
 
No more Mason. It doesn't do him any good professionally and probably is unhelpful because he becomes some version of "the old family retainer" instead of an upcoming coach. It's time for him to go manage somewhere. But I don't think it will come to any of that. The injured players will return and Spurs will come up with some wins and everything will go forward with Postecoglou. I think the owner and board have decided Postecoglou's the guy and they aren't going to be open to removing him. He'll have to have a full season with a healthy squad and transfer help before they'll make a decision. I can argue that he never should have been hired in the first place, and equally that it makes no sense to fire him until its demonstrated the system won't work.
Lmao.

He’s at 21 league defeats from 56 games. Many of those losses with Micky, Romero and Vicario.

I’d argue that regardless of injuries, losing almost 40% of your league games would suggest that on the whole the system doesn’t work.

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I actually don’t think he is on the cusp of being sacked. I really don’t.

I think Levy:

1. Has been conned by Ange into believing that it’s only injuries that are causing these terrible results in 2024.
2. After the Nuno/Ange hirings he is aware that very few decent managers are willing to work with him.
3. Remains unwilling to buy out the contract of a currently employed manager.

He would rather ride it out and pray that a miracle happens even if it means throwing the entire season away. Levy used to be ruthless with managers but the last two searches were so humiliating (with candidates turning down) that he’s gone completely soft.

I really doubt he can get away without a result against Wolves or Newcastle
 

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Nah, both were competitive games in terms of chance creation. People overrate our performances because we press well & see a lot of the ball. In a lot of these games we failed to create meaningful stuff and gave up a similar amount of chances.


Sooooo.... you can't honestly be that concerned with our loss to Forest who were at full strentgth and are the second most in form team in the league?


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If we already have a full time manager to replace Ange, then the best time is to get him in now, so that he can get in 2/3 players in the coming TW to steady the ship until the summer, when he can replace more players in the squad
That works only if our ‘first choice’ is currently unemployed …. If that’s genuine then yeah pull the trigger…. Who’d you think it is?

If it’s not

We sack ange now and will be unable to replace him with our first choice should that first choice be currently managing…. Leaving us to install a caretaker who we certainly wouldn’t want to allocate funds

What d’you suggest?
 
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