Manager Ange Postecoglou

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So his average is only 0.25 off St Poch of Mumbo Jumbo ? despite Poch having for a period the 2nd/3rd best team in a much weaker league and Ange having a pretty ropey early rebuild mess in a much stronger league?

Impressive

 

[Tanner Baw Player]

Sources close to Isak have come out and said he could stay at Toon if get Champs League spot…
This is the exact thing that Ange does not get with players and what really turns the top players on .
Yes by all means we all want to win the league thats a given but to attract and keep the best players we got to be at the very least a top 4 team year in and out with a stable manager.
We already know his stubborn not naive views on not happy on Champs League spot if his “Brand” of football does not secure it.

Even with the January window and players back its real hard to see short term and long term with Ange at helm any half decent players jumping on board .

 

[Phomesy]

Sources close to Isak have come out and said he could stay at Toon if get Champs League spot…
This is the exact thing that Ange does not get with players and what really turns the top players on .
Yes by all means we all want to win the league thats a given but to attract and keep the best players we got to be at the very least a top 4 team year in and out with a stable manager.
We already know his stubborn not naive views on not happy on Champs League spot if his “Brand” of football does not secure it.

Even with the January window and players back its real hard to see short term and long term with Ange at helm any half decent players jumping on board .

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I'm sorry but this is a completely bollocks take.

The ONLY reason Ange is still in a job is because he has the dressing room.

Conte was in 4th when he lost the dressing room.

This isn't an argument to keep Ange - it's just to point out what a horrendous take you've just given.

 

[Phomesy]

View: https://x.com/NoContext_FanTv/status/1873389507598549458

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Bit rude to doxx Daveyboyhitlernumbers like that

 

[Go on son]

I'm sorry but this is a completely bollocks take.

The ONLY reason Ange is still in a job is because he has the dressing room.

Conte was in 4th when he lost the dressing room.

This isn't an argument to keep Ange - it's just to point out what a horrendous take you've just given.

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Im sorry but if youre not playing top level european football you are not getting top level playera. Am i missing your point totally or is that not well known?

 

[Phomesy]

Im sorry but if youre not playing top level european football you are not getting top level playera. Am i missing your point totally or is that not well known?

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The OP was suggesting we'd lose our CURRENT players because of the manager not securing them CL football.

My point - which was completely fucking obvious - was that the CURRENT players are obviously still backing the manager because if they weren't he'd be gone weeks ago. So the OP's contention was self evidently bollocks.

It is true however that not achieving Top 4 will make it harder to attract Top 4 players from elsewhere. Hence why I said it was not an argument for keeping Postecoglou

 

[Go on son]

The OP was suggesting we'd lose our CURRENT players because of the manager not securing them CL football.

My point - which was completely fucking obvious - was that the CURRENT players are obviously still backing the manager because if they weren't he'd be gone weeks ago. So the OP's contention was self evidently bollocks.

It is true however that not achieving Top 4 will make it harder to attract Top 4 players from elsewhere. Hence why I said it was not an argument for keeping Postecoglou

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I asked did i miss your point completely so i did. I dont need you using bad language or capital letters to reinforce your point. Relax. And whats OP?
Plus what gives you the impression our players still back him. Our results? performances?

 

[Tanner Baw Player]

The OP was suggesting we'd lose our CURRENT players because of the manager not securing them CL football.

My point - which was completely fucking obvious - was that the CURRENT players are obviously still backing the manager because if they weren't he'd be gone weeks ago. So the OP's contention was self evidently bollocks.

It is true however that not achieving Top 4 will make it harder to attract Top 4 players from elsewhere. Hence why I said it was not an argument for keeping Postecoglou

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Settle down pal!
Was not talking bout current players or losing them
Im talking bout attracting others and what the real top players are after if not winning the league .5

Im all for peoples opinion but “Horrendous “
Bring it in for a New yrs hug….

 

[Go on son]

Pep and Klopp are system managers as well, in fact Pep right now hasn't changed a thing and his players are really being exposed.

There's a reason for it...

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Klopp relaxed his mental press. Pep too. Theres a different reason city are where they are in my opinion

 

[MemphisWill]

Yeah, in the early days he was criticised a lot for not being able to set up a defence. But the difference between our club and L’pool is that they invested in the keeper &VVD and it all turned around.

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Well, TBF, he was there over 3 years before they signed VVD and 3.5 before Alisson. And not until after they'd sold Coutinho.

It was well timed, and dead accurate spending. The biggest difference between us and Liverpool 2015-2020 was smart scouting. We went €222M in that time on Sissoko, Sanchez, Moura, Aurier, Ndombele, Bergwijn, and Sessegnon. Such a massive waste of money.

 

[MemphisWill]

Points-per-game-per-manager.

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AVB with the highest average.

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I said earlier we were right to sack AVB when we did, but it was really just for dramatic effect. I'm still not sure it wouldn't have worked out. I'm still a, potentially the only, member of AVB's blue and white army.

 

[Pzabbythethird]

Well, TBF, he was there over 3 years before they signed VVD and 3.5 before Alisson. And not until after they'd sold Coutinho.

It was well timed, and dead accurate spending. The biggest difference between us and Liverpool 2015-2020 was smart scouting. We went €222M in that time on Sissoko, Sanchez, Moura, Aurier, Ndombele, Bergwijn, and Sessegnon. Such a massive waste of money.

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Wages seem to be the biggest cause in discrepancy.

 

[Calgary Spur]

Well, TBF, he was there over 3 years before they signed VVD and 3.5 before Alisson. And not until after they'd sold Coutinho.

It was well timed, and dead accurate spending. The biggest difference between us and Liverpool 2015-2020 was smart scouting. We went €222M in that time on Sissoko, Sanchez, Moura, Aurier, Ndombele, Bergwijn, and Sessegnon. Such a massive waste of money.

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The most frustrating part about that time was we were playing CL, building this amazing project and we still couldn’t bring in the top tier players. Maybe that was lack of scouting, or maybe it was bargain hunting. Regardless of the root cause, it was just infuriating.

Oh and you forgot Vincent Janssen on your illustrious list! (Who I will confess I was super excited about because I totally bought the hype).

 

[MemphisWill]

The most frustrating part about that time was we were playing CL, building this amazing project and we still couldn’t bring in the top tier players. Maybe that was lack of scouting, or maybe it was bargain hunting. Regardless of the root cause, it was just infuriating.

Oh and you forgot Vincent Janssen on your illustrious list! (Who I will confess I was super excited about because I totally bought the hype).

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I was only counting the "big" misses, but yeah there were several other smaller misses. And a couple small hits, to be fair. If Wanyama had stayed healthy he could have been huge - maybe we win in Madrid.

 

[Boltonspur]

So his average is only 0.25 off St Poch of Mumbo Jumbo ? despite Poch having for a period the 2nd/3rd best team in a much weaker league and Ange having a pretty ropey early rebuild mess in a much stronger league?

Impressive

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Whilst the kamikaze football irks the shit out of me, and the refusal to budge makes me spit at times,
He’s got a shit squad compared to peak Poch.

I’d absolutely give him until the end of the season.
This is qualified with significant doubts but there’s fuck all out there available right now really who could polish this turd of a squad. Maybe roll it in glitter for a few games…

It all comes back to the board.

Booing managers means it’s easy to bin them and start the next “project”.

Let’s see where we are by June.

Hard to be zen but I don’t see anyone (available and decent) coming in and making a “BOOM” impact that lasts.

 

[Deuterz]

So his average is only 0.25 off St Poch of Mumbo Jumbo ? despite Poch having for a period the 2nd/3rd best team in a much weaker league and Ange having a pretty ropey early rebuild mess in a much stronger league?

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Haha is this a joke? A troll? The squad Poch had was perceived as terrible at first. He had a horrible rebuild job where he had to utilise youth players regularly!

It is also over a longer period. Ange has already fallen off a cliff (nice and quickly because he weighs so fucking much) and that PPG is going down FAST.

Ange had ONE good period at the club. With a financial investment Pochettino could only dream of.

Never ever ever compare the greatest manager we’ve had in the modern era to the fraudulent one.

 

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Haha is this a joke? A troll? The squad Poch had was perceived as terrible at first. He had a horrible rebuild job where he had to utilise youth players regularly!

It is also over a longer period. Ange has already fallen off a cliff (nice and quickly because he weighs so fucking much) and that PPG is going down FAST.

Ange had ONE good period at the club. With a financial investment Pochettino could only dream of.

Never ever ever compare the greatest manager we’ve had in the modern era to the fraudulent one.

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It was a little bit tongue in cheek, But isn’t that the point here. I said “for a period”. When his team wasn’t so hot neither was his PPG, and also for much of that, Pep hadn’t kicked in, Arse were shit, Liverpool had only just started their smart recruitment and Klopp hadn’t kicked in, Chelsea were no better than us and the league wasn’t top to bottom with smart fuckers beating everyone.

This is the toughest PL there has been ever. We are back to having one of the youngest teams in the PL which has no proven outstanding players, a ton of injuries and lacking any bench at all for most of the season so far.

Ange’s is flawed, but as Boltonspur said, I’m not sure anyone is polishing this turd much better - Poch didn’t polish his turd very well.

 

[Dixiefish61]

Apologies for the typo, won't happen again I promise.

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It’s only that it happened twice. Not like you Shady.

 

[Deuterz]

It was a little bit tongue in cheek, But isn’t that the point here. I said “for a period”. When his team wasn’t so hot neither was his PPG, and also for much of that, Pep hadn’t kicked in, Arse were shit, Liverpool had only just started their smart recruitment and Klopp hadn’t kicked in, Chelsea were no better than us and the league wasn’t top to bottom with smart fuckers beating everyone.

This is the toughest PL there has been ever. We are back to having one of the youngest teams in the PL which has no proven outstanding players, a ton of injuries and lacking any bench at all for most of the season so far.

Ange’s is flawed, but as Boltonspur said, I’m not sure anyone is polishing this turd much better - Poch didn’t polish his turd very well.

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Toughest the PL has ever been my absolute arse. One team of any serious quality. Forest are fucking 2nd. City in turmoil. United are absolutely awful. Woolwich are worse than last season and Chelsea are a top 4 side at absolute best. Brighton are fucking mediocre and Villa are only a small step above. Howe’s Newcastle look great right now FFS.

Chelsea, Bournemouth and Brighton have younger squads. Other teams are a whisker away. What a terrible reason to be shit. Ange apparently wanted kids and was vocal about how happy he was with the windows. Got his 65 million quid striker too. We have no proven outstanding players? Guess that depends on your definition. We have a lot of very good players relative to the top 8 who we are now erm .. all below.

Flawed is a fucking understatement. He has us facing down a relegation fight if we lose the next few games. We are bottom half. This is all happening in his 2nd full season after two transfer windows with 130m+ spent on players he apparently wanted. We have lost to Ipswich at home and Palace with zero injuries, among other total embarrassments.

Pochettino took a squad widely considered terrible (worse than the one Ange took over with far less resources) and polished it very well indeed. Shit turned south at the end of his reign but all managers will eventually fall off, you don’t expect it in the 2nd season.

Almost any coach of real quality does better right now, let’s be honest about this. Waaa waaa injuries, as if it isn’t partly his fault and they haven’t been an issue for him at other clubs. We have 3 starting XI players out - put your big boy pants on and grind out points. We looked about as shit as Wolves with home advantage.

Comparing Ange with Poch is insulting to Poch. One made us a team to be feared, the other a team other sides are excited to face. We are a joke. A giggle for rivals. Haha aren’t spurs entertaining under the Aussie clown, aren’t they fun as we watch them concede 6 and run in to each other. Fucking hell..

 

[Brian Fantana]

I'm not predicting that they're making a change this week.

But all I'll say is that most Tottenham sackings, aren't the day after the final game that was the tipping point. Nuno and Jose were sacked 2 days later. Pochettino was sacked a week or so after the Sheffield Utd game (international break).. I think Conte's departure was a long wait until the Southampton debacle..

Really I don't think there's any way to know what's going to happen either way. Regardless of what any journalist says. There's no way to know what that club is thinking.

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I’ve posted before that usually the club leak out players are fed up with training but they can’t do it this time because players keep coming out and backing the manager. So that key indicator isn’t there unfortunately and I have to agree. There’s always a tipping point though isn’t there. If newcastle come at the weekend and smash us 4 nil then surely that will be it, if not, I’m not certain they will sack him at all.