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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It's obvious Ange will remain in the job now until at least the second leg with Pool, but the PL games before then are:

Woolwich (a)
Everton (a) - new manager bounce
Leicester (h)
Brentford (a)

There's every chance we only pick up maximum 5 points during this spell. If we beat Pool and reach the final then all will be forgiven, but at what stage does the league position become completely unacceptable?

Not baiting or looking for an Ange Out discussion. Just curious as to what would be breaking point? Or is it a case of securing a trophy and finishing higher than say 15th, then his job is secure and he'll be backed with funds in the summer?

It feels like the Pool second leg is enormous for him.
A Ramos style scenario is not impossible.
 
It's obvious Ange will remain in the job now until at least the second leg with Pool, but the PL games before then are:

Woolwich (a)
Everton (a) - new manager bounce
Leicester (h)
Brentford (a)

There's every chance we only pick up maximum 5 points during this spell. If we beat Pool and reach the final then all will be forgiven, but at what stage does the league position become completely unacceptable?

Not baiting or looking for an Ange Out discussion. Just curious as to what would be breaking point? Or is it a case of securing a trophy and finishing higher than say 15th, then his job is secure and he'll be backed with funds in the summer?

It feels like the Pool second leg is enormous for him.

Depends on the the context really, I really think unless he has us on really really shit run and we're not improving results and in particular performance wise then I don't think he'll still be in a job, the players are still pulling for him and there's still a load of players to come back from injury.

Even if he loses to Pool he will still keep his job, as I keep saying there's no point in sacking him when you're still in 3 competitions.
 
Yeah it was good and a nice reference to lots of these players working their way up the hard way.

I know he's still injured but for one example Richy came from real poverty in Brazil and used to train barefoot. Getting changed in a draughty porta cabin in Tamworth is nothing.
Thing is, the delivery of the question was the problem and she gave away her own bias with the wording and tone.

If she’d just asked is it difficult to adapt from the best facilities in the world to a Porto cabin and no hot water, the question is fine… but she didn’t. She’s went with can your spoilt brat millionaires handle roughing it, which is dickhead behaviour
 
I would expect him to be given until the end of the season now.
Even though there has not been any consistency of a winning run since beginning of last season.
There has been various reasons for this, injuries, poor set up etc, and it looks like he might get a player or two during the window.
Even if the team goes out to Liverpool which is very possible, they are better off sticking with him until may and then take stock.
If it's decided he is the man for the job, then club needs to do everything in can and give him a competitive squad.
 
Uhh we already are on a shit run? Any worse than this and it’s relegation form, if it’s not already.

Use your noggin, it's obvious I meant around the relegation zone...the kind of run the bottom teams are on.

As I said the context is important...when the players stop running for him he will be in trouble, we are nowhere near that yet.
 
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When a team is on form the mentality should be 1 game at a time.

When a team is off form the mentality should be 1 game at a time.

None of the predictions had us beating Liverpool. Let’s get Tamworth done first and worry about the League after.
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Use your noggin, it's obvious I meant around the relegation zone...the kind of run the bottom teams are on.

As I said the context is important...when the players stop running for him he will be in trouble, we are nowhere near that yet.


The players could keep running for him and we lose every game until the end of the season and are relegated. So you talk about context, the context is the results are shit even with a fit team. I think Ange is running out of excuses to be honest.

We have been on relegation form for 10 games and it's been midtable form for a long time before that. We have 2 wins in our last 10 PL games. I mean, it literally cannot get much worse, the next step down from that is losing every single league game.

We have Woolwich away, and Everton away with a fucking new manager. Terrible timing for us and Ange how that has played out. With Dyche it would have been a tough game anyway, but now it's even harder.

Ange cannot lose many more PL games at all.

You and anyone else that thinks Ange has more time because the players are with him are kidding themselves. Everton, West Ham, United, Wolves, have all sacked their managers for showing the same league form as us pretty much, or maybe one or two wins less than us.

Even if we get to the league cup final, if we keep losing PL games, the board will need to make a decision. I am sure they would really want to give Ange the chance of a final, we absolutely should. But the league results simply have to pick up, and considerably.

No chance the club even contemplates a relegation battle and if we lose the next two league games, it'll be Feb and we will be in a relegation battle. Ipswich are 18th and have won twice in the last few games. If they win their next two, they'll be a point behind us. Let that sink in. I know you'll reply going it's being dramatic, well you tell me then, where are the next league wins coming from?

VDV and Romero are being hailed as some saviours that will come back into the team and all of a sudden we turn into world beaters. Not happening. They'll probably need a month to regain fitness and form and by then it's March. They might even get injured again knowing our luck.
 
Depends on the the context really, I really think unless he has us on really really shit run and we're not improving results and in particular performance wise then I don't think he'll still be in a job, the players are still pulling for him and there's still a load of players to come back from injury.

Even if he loses to Pool he will still keep his job, as I keep saying there's no point in sacking him when you're still in 3 competitions.
I mean, if we're dire in those four league games and then lose to Pool, he's on extremely thin ice.
 
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