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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
manmountainbutters said:
oh ffs. Can't you see that there is a compounding effect going on?

The players haven't been properly coached now for 18 months.

Our only good players are those who have spent the least time under his horrible mis-management (Spence, Solanke, Gray, Bergvall).

We would be absolutely miles off 5th even with zero injuries.
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The only compounding effect I see is fatigue leading to injuries leading to fatigue.
 
Os22 said:
Well it’s nonsense in all directions as the people who have said he wasn’t up to it have been attacked and called gooners and not true fansfor months on end.

I think everyone here is a fan, and it’s winds me up no end when people on here get personal to each other - no need for it. Direct the anger at the club.
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Bravo, my friend.

Quite a few on here just want it to be one-way traffic. Plenty fine when it comes to dishing it out, but they lose their shit the second some stick is thrown their way.
 
I understand not wanting to sack him after a 66 points/5th place finish, but they should still have been prepared for the possibility of a mid-season change before a ball was kicked this season. This kind of a total collapse was nearly impossible to envision, but alarm bells were still ringing to a considerable degree about Ange's long-term suitability for the job. 1 point from 5 matches after that Chelsea match, 4 match losing streak near the end of the season, struggles in breaking down low blocks and relying on last minute goals and comebacks to win against inferior teams on many occasions. These cannot simply be brushed away as hindsight.

United, despite him having a strong first season and winning a cup in his second season as well, pulled the plug on Ten Hag after 9 league matches, sitting with 11 points. We had 13 from our first 9. In a spell where we gave away a 2 goal lead against Brighton, and dropped 5 points against Leicester and Palace. Two weeks later, on Nov 10, we lost to another relegation fodder Ipswich at home. If they actually had a replacement plan ready, this would have been a great time to pull the plug on him. Everything to play for in the league, no injury excuse or any other mitigating factors in sight. Instead they put all their eggs in Ange basket, an injury crisis started appearing on the horizon, and the rest is history.

Even if they no longer believe in him, which might not even be the case by the way, we are in purgatory now. Probably too late in the context of the season to replace him with a permanent long-term successor, but also too early to throw the towel by going with Mason. If they ever plan on taking that route again that is.

Between him, Mason, and a rushed appointment from a limited number of available candidates, I can't see an easy way out. Pick your poison.
 
Matt1882 said:
I didn't say that. It was a terrible window.
But league cup aside, Ramos was an awful coach before they went.
10 wins from 28 games WITH Berbatov and Keane. That's probably why the pair of them left.
Redknapp sorted that shit show out in no time. Ramos did nothing of any significance thereafter.
Literally walked in the to Real Madrid job somehow for 6 months then was sacked, few menial jobs ever since and nothing for 9 years.
He was the epitome of a journeyman coach. 18 jobs, all of which were 1-2 year stints.
There were rumours that the time the only reason his Seville side did well was the structure above him. Levy, in his infinite wisdom, took the wrong part of the success at that club.

We're actually at a point now, where our last 8 aren't much worse than Ramos' either.
He has the famous 2 points from 8.
We have 4 from 8 games and the same number of losses.
In fact it's 4 points from 9 games. 5 from 10.
We really are as bad as we were when we sacked Ramos.

I bet even then there were some fans who backed him and wanted him to stay. Just nowhere near as many as the insane Angebois we have now.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_CW4FRu1s

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Os22 said:
Well it’s nonsense in all directions as the people who have said he wasn’t up to it have been attacked and called gooners and not true fansfor months on end.

I think everyone here is a fan, and it’s winds me up no end when people on here get personal to each other - no need for it. Direct the anger at the club.
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The only Gooners I see here are the ones who want us relegated.
Those of us who want Ange out all want Spurs to get better, not continue spiraling out of the PL.
 
holloway spurs said:
The Brighton game was the turning point 2 nil up and comfortable....we should have closed that fucking game down
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That’s what I said on a previous post if he’d adapt to situations in games he’d get away with a lot in terms of patience up 2-0 away to Brighton who the fuck was going to criticise him if we’d spent the entire 2nd half keeping the ball sit back force Brighton on to us catch them on the break, but no he’d to go kamikaze style and fuck it up.
 
Eli said:
That’s what I said on a previous post if he’d adapt to situations in games he’d get away with a lot in terms of patience up 2-0 away to Brighton who the fuck was going to criticise him if we’d spent the entire 2nd half keeping the ball sit back force Brighton on to us catch them on the break, but no he’d to go kamikaze style and fuck it up.
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Wasn't even kamikaze. They came out in a different mood. They change a few things up and they won every duel all over the pitch. They were taking the ball off us and playing through/around us with ease. And it was obvious.
But he stood there with his hands in his pockets. Wasn't it this one that he said he didn't make changes because he wanted the players to live with it?
 
dudu said:
So what?

Youre talking about losing a game of football? It happens. Didn't Chelsea just lose 2-0 Ipswich with a team that probably cost twice what ours did?

There is a difference between losing a game of football, and your form falling off the edge of a cliff.

We beat City after the Ipswich loss and were 3 points off 3rd. We were not picking up a worthy amount of points but no one, bar Liverpool was.

Our form before the City game and after the City game could not have a more stark contrast.

I literally said its Anges job to figure out a solution - if he can't then its on him - but that doesnt mean the root cause of the problem doesn't exist?
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So what? Add it to the second half v Leicester, second half v Brighton, Palace away...we played some awful stuff with our first choice players. No consistency, the same defensive issues regardless of who plays (attack our right side). Injuries obviously make it worse, but the problem is the coach. He is the root cause of the problem.
 
daveyboy88 said:
LOOOOOOL
omg!!! they are taking the absolute piss out of him now hahaha. wow!

"familiar story"...oh my god!!!
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At least he comes out swinging ; which is what we need to do right now . IMO .

Always remember Nice Guys finish second.

Don’t get me wrong; he may ultimately prove not to be up to the task in hand : but he’s the incumbent manager and I don’t blame him for getting a bit feisty in post-match interviews ( with people who are paid to bait rather than understand) .

At the point at we’re at : Unleash Ange ; is what I say .

Bring it on .
 
dudu said:
So what?

Youre talking about losing a game of football? It happens. Didn't Chelsea just lose 2-0 Ipswich with a team that probably cost twice what ours did?

There is a difference between losing a game of football, and your form falling off the edge of a cliff.

We beat City after the Ipswich loss and were 3 points off 3rd. We were not picking up a worthy amount of points but no one, bar Liverpool was.

Our form before the City game and after the City game could not have a more stark contrast.

I literally said its Anges job to figure out a solution - if he can't then its on him - but that doesnt mean the root cause of the problem doesn't exist?
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Exactly

How he, or any coach, finds a solution without reinforcements or injured players back i have no idea.
 
John Duncan said:
At least he comes out swinging ; which is what we need to do right now . IMO .

Always remember Nice Guys finish second.

Don’t get me wrong; he may ultimately prove not to be up to the task in hand : but he’s the incumbent manager and I don’t blame him for getting a bit feisty in post-match interviews ( with people who are paid to bait rather than understand) .

At the point at we’re at : Unleash Ange ; is what I say .

Bring it on .
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1000%

Fuck these clowns and their narratives and fuck these fucking refs as well. Call it all out, get it out in the open
 
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