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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Probably hoping he resigns when they dont buy him anyone or does a Conte so they can sack him without compo.
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Did Conte get sacked without comp?? First I've heard of that. He only had 6 months left on his deal anyway from what I remember.

In any case, I'm not really sure I buy this theory. We went for Ange in the first place partly because he was cheap, and coming from the SPL he had little leverage over his wage, certainly less than a Mourinho or Conte. This was by far the biggest job of his career and you'd have to think his salary would reflect that (Conte was on 17m, Ange only 4m per year iirc).

And I'm sure that Levy being who he is, and knowing that the average shelf-life of a manager under him is around 18 months, he'd have stipulated a pretty mediocre payoff were Ange to be sacked. Wouldn't surprise me if there were some clauses in his contract stipulating league position too, ie, if we're bottom half he only gets £2m or whatever.

When you compare all this to our lost revenues were we to finish in the bottom half, commercial and TV, it pales in comparison. I see no financial argument for keeping Postecoglou in post whatsoever.
 
Matt1882 said:
I didn't say that. It was a terrible window.
But league cup aside, Ramos was an awful coach before they went.
10 wins from 28 games WITH Berbatov and Keane. That's probably why the pair of them left.
Redknapp sorted that shit show out in no time. Ramos did nothing of any significance thereafter.
Literally walked in the to Real Madrid job somehow for 6 months then was sacked, few menial jobs ever since and nothing for 9 years.
He was the epitome of a journeyman coach. 18 jobs, all of which were 1-2 year stints.
There were rumours that the time the only reason his Seville side did well was the structure above him. Levy, in his infinite wisdom, took the wrong part of the success at that club.

We're actually at a point now, where our last 8 aren't much worse than Ramos' either.
He has the famous 2 points from 8.
We have 4 from 8 games and the same number of losses.
In fact it's 4 points from 9 games. 5 from 10.
We really are as bad as we were when we sacked Ramos.

I bet even then there were some fans who backed him and wanted him to stay. Just nowhere near as many as the insane Angebois we have now.
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A mostly forgotten bit of trivia- Juande Ramos was the Dnipro manager when we played them under Sherwood in 2014.
 
daveyboy88 said:
its actually amazing. this guys the biggest fool you'll ever see in football.

hes so clueless its painful to watch. the chelsea 9 men just completely exposed him as not being a football person, that was sooo fucking bad its unforgivable, he legit thinks its about firing players up and being aggressive loool.


the funny thing is, most fans havent got a clue either, as a lot still dont get how significant that chelsea game was, we hadnt even lost a game till that point and fans straight away would of wanted him out after that as thats the biggest red flag youll ever see in the game. its still quite unbelievable.

only daniel levy could oversee this.


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LOOOOOOOL. that is not the workings of a football manager.
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Up until this point I thought your average fan probably had a vague idea of what they were watching on the pitch. You know, basic tactics, common sense. Especially the ones who'd been watching the sport for 30-40 years and had thousands of games under their belt.

But the reaction this absolute fucking mess of a match—and from all corners, not just Spurs fans—was a real shock. Never seen anything more stupid take place on a football pitch in my life, and yet you have the sheep in the stadium clapping like seals, and all the pundits cooing like they'd just witnessed Guardiola reinvent the wheel.

Now I think most people I think just watch football with their brain disengaged; to them it's just a bunch of different coloured shirts running around, a chance to yell at the TV, and you cheer when the ball goes in the right net. Only way you can explain the absolute insanity we're seeing now too, where most of the fans are still backing this charlatan. No wonder we're fucking doomed as a species.
 
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Fazz said:
That second leg is the do or die game for Ange. I think Levy will tolerate this form as long as we don't get dragged any closer to the relegation battle and we make it to the final. If we lose at Anfield, Ange is out and Levy will have to start doing some Actual work
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Every week someone says "do or die" or some other phrase like "if we lose this one he's gone" etc etc but guess what...even after Goodison, he's still here...surprise, surprise
 
Matt1882 said:
We are SO uncoached. It's possibly why the players aren't kicking off. Most of them probably love it. It's probably easy stuff. All mates and bantah.
Bentley would come out of retirement for that.
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Exactly. Turn up in the morning. Have decent nosh at the canteen. Ange on porn upstairs as usual? Yeah, no worries then. Do some shots for Insta in the gym. Then some other game for socials. A kick about. Massage. More nosh, and then back home in the G-Wagon for an afternoon on Brawlstars.

Who wouldn't love that????
 
Aphex said:
Bloke grinds my gears. It's so fitting that we have such a wet flannel as the "club journalist". Never asks the hard questions, just meekly accept failure and incompetence as we hurtle down into the Championship.
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He's one of those whose entire life is football, he's hitched his wagon to Postcoglou being a tactical genius, and so admitting they were wrong all along would be akin to admitting you know absolutely nothing about the sport you spend all day writing about.

It's too much for these people to accept, too much of a mental collapse, so they have to look for other reasons (injures, Levy, young players) that enable them to believe they're not a complete fraud just like this manager. You see it all over this forum too.
 
Logged back on hoping/expecting news he had been given the chop, instead I just discover a board basically saying "but injuries":wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:

Mr Bean Reaction GIF

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Reckon he’s good for at least another weeks wages anyway. Straight after the game yesterday or by lunchtime today were probably the optimum times to fire him.
 
Klaus said:
Did Conte get sacked without comp?? First I've heard of that. He only had 6 months left on his deal anyway from what I remember.

In any case, I'm not really sure I buy this theory. We went for Ange in the first place partly because he was cheap, and coming from the SPL he had little leverage over his wage, certainly less than a Mourinho or Conte. This was by far the biggest job of his career and you'd have to think his salary would reflect that (Conte was on 17m, Ange only 4m per year iirc).

And I'm sure that Levy being who he is, and knowing that the average shelf-life of a manager under him is around 18 months, he'd have stipulated a pretty mediocre payoff were Ange to be sacked. Wouldn't surprise me if there were some clauses in his contract stipulating league position too, ie, if we're bottom half he only gets £2m or whatever.

When you compare all this to our lost revenues were we to finish in the bottom half, commercial and TV, it pales in comparison. I see no financial argument for keeping Postecoglou in post whatsoever.
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My guess would be that Ange was a cheap punt ( by a cheap punter ) ; one that might work out but probably won’t .

But ; it keeps the plates spinning and the turnstiles whirring until the next likely lad comes along.

I still hope Ange turns out to be a success , whatever it takes .

But the whole Are You Not Entertained ? part of the cycle only rolls around so often .

Danny will want something different next time. Which is a shame IMO .
 
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