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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
PerthPaul said:
This is the problem, because it is about who comes next. We're all over emotional because of the horror show we're not allowed to wake away from. But do we really want to swap out an awful manager for someone slightly less shit?
If we lose badly against Villa, which is more likely than unlikely, that should be the cue to let Ange go. But it'll have to be Ryan Mason then, and we have to go all out for the right manager in the summer. I wouldn't care if we spent our entire transfer budget on getting the right manager.....we can't just keep going through this cycle of hell
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For now, a thousand times yes.
For the long term, obviously not.
 
rusty83 said:
You’re right I ain’t a spurs fan. If Ange gets the sack it will be hilarious watching fans reactions on here whilst Spurs crash and burn over and over again never win a single trophy in the next 100 years. It will be the same cycle for all eternity:

New coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach…

Wft do Spurs fans know? You mean like Mourinho, Conte and Esperito who are currently sitting 2nd, 1st and 3rd respectively. How about Poch, who Ange finished above last year? You had world class coaches, the problem isn’t your managers it’s your players. Your players are shit. There’s no manager in the world who can make shit turn to gold.
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Can’t wait to be rid of these cunts.
 
kingdawson said:
ok i'll play your game for a minute.

Lets talk Facts (Rafa Benitez voice). Facts and evidence go hand in hand btw.

1) Fact number one is that 9 different players have had hamstring injuries in half a season of football which has never been seen before (13 or 14 injuries total). The evidence is self explanatory.

2) Our manager has fallen out with the head medical guy that has been at the club since forever so much so that he resigned. There has also been reports the manager has had disagreements with the medical team...this has been reported.

3) There is reluctance from either centre back to return and play. The evidence is that one has been back training for a couple of weeks and the manager has stated it is slower then expected for both and they dont feel right.

4) Players have returned and reinjured themselves numerous times. The evidence is that its happened.

5 The manager has already admitted he played a player for longer then the medical team advised and played another player that wasnt fit to play. Those are the two we are aware of based on the manager stating it publically.

6) The manager historically has had issues with his players suffering from Hamstring injuries at previous clubs.



I think if any reasonable person that doesnt have any bias was given all this information they would conclude that its reasonable to assume the manager has played a pretty significant part in our injuries.
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Not evidence

And “this has been reported” doesn’t make anything a fact,

It’s a fact that players have had hamstring injuries playing for Ange in their first season. It’s also a fact that they have usually been more injury resistant in the second season.

It is also a fact that some of our players haven’t been more resilient this season.

Obviously the manager has role to play in injuries, he’s the manager.

Everyone seems to want Iraola, he’s got very similar injury’s happening. It’s part of premier League football because it’s a league dominated by physicality and every team is pushing the envelope to get a physical edge.

But just saying, it’s all the managers fault is massive over simplification, mainly driven by the urge that it must be someone’s fault. Have to have a face to blame.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Not evidence

And “this has been reported” doesn’t make anything a fact,

It’s a fact that players have had hamstring injuries playing for Ange in their first season. It’s also a fact that they have usually been more injury resistant in the second season.

It is also a fact that some of our players haven’t been more resilient this season.

Obviously the manager has role to play in injuries, he’s the manager.

Everyone seems to want Iraola, he’s got very similar injury’s happening. It’s part of premier League football because it’s a league dominated by physicality and every team is pushing the envelope to get a physical edge.

But just saying, it’s all the managers fault is massive over simplification, mainly driven by the urge that it must be someone’s fault. Have to have a face to blame.
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What?
 
rusty83 said:
You’re right I ain’t a spurs fan. If Ange gets the sack it will be hilarious watching fans reactions on here whilst Spurs crash and burn over and over again never win a single trophy in the next 100 years. It will be the same cycle for all eternity:

New coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach, renewed optimism, bad results, angry fans, sack coach, new coach…

Wft do Spurs fans know? You mean like Mourinho, Conte and Esperito who are currently sitting 2nd, 1st and 3rd respectively. How about Poch, who Ange finished above last year? You had world class coaches, the problem isn’t your managers it’s your players. Your players are shit. There’s no manager in the world who can make shit turn to gold.
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Yeah you can fuck off.

You only here to defend a manager? Is it like being a Lebron fan who follows him to each team like your his bitch?

You actually make it harder to justify not sacking the manager by supporting him,
 
He's given Levy a massive headache.
He had planned on seeing this one out but Angelos is doing his hardest to get sacked and get on the beach but if Levy pulls the trigger what is the next step.Levy wants to be involved in the hotel so this football issue is impacting his off field activities.
Well done Angelos keep it going nothing like seeing the schemes of a dictator turn to shit.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Instead of recovering from injury in the first season and being more adjusted to the intensity in the second season, we’ve seen them get re-injured instead.

That’s a fact for you.
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are you ok??

i know thats happened, ive said as much.

you stated:

"It is also a fact that some of our players haven’t been more resilient this season."

Isnt that the complete opposite of what your post that i quoted stated or am i going mad?? wtf?
 
TonySoprano said:
There is zero chance he’s managing us until the end of next season. None whatsoever.
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I can't believe he got beyond that Everton first half.

I've seen a lot of manager sacking moments since 77 and Ange has been on life support since then as far as I'm concerned.

What is Ange effecting in Spurs performances since Everton?

We only won at Brentford because Brentford didn't turn up.
 
Kosher Kid said:
I can't believe he got beyond that Everton first half.

I've seen a lot of manager sacking moments since 77 and Ange has been on life support since then as far as I'm concerned.

What is Ange effecting in Spurs performances since Everton?

We only won at Brentford because Brentford didn't turn up.
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He’s certainly had more time and patience than some before him. For a multitude of reasons. He can count himself fortunate to still be in a job which makes his prickly arrogance and rudeness a bit rich.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Not evidence

And “this has been reported” doesn’t make anything a fact,

It’s a fact that players have had hamstring injuries playing for Ange in their first season. It’s also a fact that they have usually been more injury resistant in the second season.

It is also a fact that some of our players haven’t been more resilient this season.

Obviously the manager has role to play in injuries, he’s the manager.

Everyone seems to want Iraola, he’s got very similar injury’s happening. It’s part of premier League football because it’s a league dominated by physicality and every team is pushing the envelope to get a physical edge.

But just saying, it’s all the managers fault is massive over simplification, mainly driven by the urge that it must be someone’s fault. Have to have a face to blame.
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It’s not really how you can say it’s an over simplification when the arguments presented list numerous factors leading up to the circumstances that the club is in. Up until December when we got this onslaught of injuries, Spurs had the highest amount of high intensity runs in and out of possession per game, combined with intense training, a gruelling schedule, limited rotation, and a manager who fell out with his own medical staff over recovery and workload concerns; so much so that the head of medical for 20 years quit.

During the Liverpool game you had Richarlison a red flag for injuries running 25-30 yards to press their defenders at every opportunity instead of staying compact cutting off passing lanes and conserving energy to hit Liverpool on the break. Ange is high risk, high reward, he refuses to compromise and there are consequences.
 
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rusty83 said:
Why is it proven that the squad will never be fit? It’s not proven, that’s just fucking stupid.

It doesn’t matter how good the coach is when you have seven first team players missing and rubbish depth. You are going to lose games regardless. A lot. A good coach cannot salvage a lack of quality, experience and bench options on the pitch. Sure, with shit players you can transition to a defensive mindset and look more structurally organised and “better coached” but you still won’t win anything and once you’ve instilled that in the players you will never weed it out. It is a guarantee of perpetual mediocrity.

Success isn’t just who the manager is, it’s a holistic enterprise involving manager, players, owners, culture and to lesser extent assistant coaches etc. You take one cog out of the wheel and the whole thing falls apart. That is just the reality of elite sport. The current state of Spurs crisis is simply injuries.
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Go away you sad deluded fool!!
Ange isn't fit for purpose in this league, as well as being a moody bastard he has no tactical nous and having no plan B.
 
rusty83 said:
Why is it proven that the squad will never be fit? It’s not proven, that’s just fucking stupid.

It doesn’t matter how good the coach is when you have seven first team players missing and rubbish depth. You are going to lose games regardless. A lot. A good coach cannot salvage a lack of quality, experience and bench options on the pitch. Sure, with shit players you can transition to a defensive mindset and look more structurally organised and “better coached” but you still won’t win anything and once you’ve instilled that in the players you will never weed it out. It is a guarantee of perpetual mediocrity.

Success isn’t just who the manager is, it’s a holistic enterprise involving manager, players, owners, culture and to lesser extent assistant coaches etc. You take one cog out of the wheel and the whole thing falls apart. That is just the reality of elite sport. The current state of Spurs crisis is simply injuries.
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Injuries caused by lack of rotation, terrible use of substitutes, ridiculous full on training methods and a kamikaze system that only works in shit leagues. Yep all caused by Posteclueless
 
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