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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Liverpool losing to Plymouth, whilst big news and a big, big upset, is an isolated event for them.
Nobody saw it coming and it took a penalty and stout defending to win against them.
Liverpool were on top by almost every possible metric. But they had one of those days, away to a team that showed up.

We on the other hand, expect to lose every fucking match now. Every game. We were damn well lucky not to lose in the 90 minutes to non league Tamworth.
It took two very late goals to win against Coventry.
We lost to Palace, Ipswich and Leicester. 2 of them at home!

We lose so much more often than we win.
it is an isolated event, but if they started a proper midfield they dont lose that game.

point is the midfield will always be the most important position in a football team, our idiot clearly doesnt understand that. his genuis idea is to have fucking defenders acting as playmakers....the blokes a fucking idiot.
 
I've posted before, but his career stats are absolutely mediocre. He's living off vibes.

His Australia NT win ratio (45%) was lower than the permanent managers either side of him (52%, 57%). He had basically the same success at Celtic as Neil Lennon and Brendan Rodgers. All the others are in Leagues ranked lower than the Championship, and even then he hardly ever broke a 50% win rate.

The fact I've heard this argument from Aussie fans and Celtic fans in that they got thrashed by better teams "but we played really well"

So?
Celtic got thrashed 5-1 by Real Madrid. And they were happy because they had a go?
Maybe if they had less of a go, it would have only been 1-0, and from a confidence point of view, 1-0 is better than 5-1
And GD.
And optics.

The guy has literally hypnotized people and created a false belief that "playing well" is what matters when you get beat left right and centre.
 
When we were playing once a week, Ange was saying we weren't playing enough to get in to our rhythm. Now we're playing twice a week (with the 'tough' games being against rangers or bloody hoffenheim!) its a huge problem as well.

Almost like for his football to work it requires very specific conditions and any sort of issue causes the team to be completely destabilised.

I mean I keep hearing this pathetic excuse that "Oh if this is back or that returns".

To which I'd answer - "Oh yea, like last year? You know when we played Newcastle, City, Woolwich, Liverpool in a row. In 2 of these games out defense was Udogie-VDV-Romero-Porro, and in other 2 games 3 out of 4 were starting too..."
Lost all of those, conceded 13 in the process...
What a brilliant turnaround!
 
it is an isolated event, but if they started a proper midfield they dont lose that game.

point is the midfield will always be the most important position in a football team, our idiot clearly doesnt understand that. his genuis idea is to have fucking defenders acting as playmakers....the blokes a fucking idiot.

We don't really a have a midfield or defence. It's all based on trying to dominate and outscore the opponents.
The idea that anyone might be as good as , if not better than us, and that we might need to win the ball back in our own 3rd is beyond him.
 
Yes, until some point he did.
And it also worked. I even had no problems letting Galatasaray game slide. It was not a good performance, but to me it was OK. Cause he went with rotated side and gave some youth chance.

But like with very many working solutions, Ange decided to drop that take a different route.
Of crippling the same XI.


What a genius move. Weird he now rants about it, like it was not intentional.

When did he do that?

btw I'm not saying his mistakes mean he shouldn't lose his job btw but let's get it straight about what was and wasn't a mistake because rotation certainly wasn't one of them.
 
I've posted before, but his career stats are absolutely mediocre. He's living off vibes.

His Australia NT win ratio (45%) was lower than the permanent managers either side of him (52%, 57%). He had basically the same success at Celtic as Neil Lennon and Brendan Rodgers. All the others are in Leagues ranked lower than the Championship, and even then he hardly ever broke a 50% win rate.
Said it before, its like an elaborate con job. Staggering but not surprising that his career wasnt examined more closely. Why wasnt he questioned about his lack of coaching team? This is why its not just him that needs to lose his job over this. The lack of due diligence once again is off the scale.
 
I think you're right. What does Levy get from firing Postecoglou now? I think he's ignoring the problem and running out the clock. The fans still appear to not want a change by about a 2-1 margin. So, looks like another season for Postecoglou.

Apparently the away fans sang the Poch song at Villa...

That will be his death knell if it gets louder at home. Levy hates being reminded of his mistakes with Poch.
 
The fact I've heard this argument from Aussie fans and Celtic fans in that they got thrashed by better teams "but we played really well"

So?
Celtic got thrashed 5-1 by Real Madrid. And they were happy because they had a go?
Maybe if they had less of a go, it would have only been 1-0, and from a confidence point of view, 1-0 is better than 5-1
And GD.
And optics.

The guy has literally hypnotized people and created a false belief that "playing well" is what matters when you get beat left right and centre.
And to top it all off we're not even doing that, and haven't for what feels like a very long time...
 

I mean, how can anyone argue with this? I have yet to see a counterpoint beyond “But this take is biased” while offering no actual evidence to support that claim.

In other words, water is wet.

The metrics provide conclusive proof that any injury crisis we have is, in fact, down to Ange and his, frankly, braindead approach to managing a football team.

Imagine how many careers he could ruin if this continues?

This isn’t even getting into the argument about if it’s even valid to blame injuries on our form, especially when considering we had a fully fit team at the end of last season and we still had poor results (and numerous this season).
 
How the fuck has he not been sacked, has Levy completely lost the plot.


(I'm not a covid denier and don't think any of this was true then)


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But for the cult of Postecoglu - WOW.

Repetitive rituals
- Blame self inflicted injuries
Leader
- Obvious flaws. Check. Can do no wrong in some fans eyes. Double Check. Mate.
Special Costume
- Badly fitted suit and a disheveled look
Abnormal rules
- Absurd instructions like telling all your players to chase the ball around all match to, quite litterally "Break down the oppositions phsyche" And everything becomes more absurd the longer it goes on.
 
Levy going back to Poch would relieve all the pressure on him for another 18 months or more. Wide sections of the supporters would be very pleased.

But I don’t believe Levy would ever do it because it because it entails admitting he made an error sacking Poch and that all the club’s tribulation of the last several years would be laid at his feet.

And beyond this, it would entail Levy saying he made another mistake by not bringing Poch back before when he was available and we were without a manager. Uncle Fester will never accept the blame for all this. He blames managers.

Levy still doesn’t intend to back any new manager with a budget that matches our aspirations, he is still searching for that elusive miracle worker who can turn his water into wine, and he doesn’t believe Poch is that.
 
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