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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Richard Arlison said:
Got as far as that Johnny moron saying Poch would be playing our academy kids more and couldn't continue.

Where do we find these pillocks?

Not even coming at it from an a position of supporting Ange just from a position of being based on facts. Poch was a brutal mess for developing academy kids, that's not even up for debate.
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Yeah I heard him say that and thought "huh?" He's alright but he doesn't half come out with some bollocks.
 
Richard Arlison said:
I’m watching the First Contact series on Six Nations and the Italy coach never even had a question in his mind about starting his captain with broken ribs 🤣

Football and Rugby are just different worlds. From the teams to the media to the way the fans look at it.
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my buddy who played rugby explained it to me like this, in football the players spend most of the match trying to act like they're injured and in rugby they spend most of the match trying to act like they're not injured
 
Harry Vaginola said:
my buddy who played rugby explained it to me like this, in football the players spend most of the match trying to act like they're injured and in rugby they spend most of the match trying to act like they're not injured
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But Rugby is a sport where you’re going to get injured. It’s inevitable. If you don’t you’re probably not playing it properly. Or you’re shirking, which in that sport is unforgivable.

That’s not really the case in football. The contact levels aren’t comparable.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Got as far as that Johnny moron saying Poch would be playing our academy kids more and couldn't continue.

Where do we find these pillocks?

Not even coming at it from an a position of supporting Ange just from a position of being based on facts. Poch was a brutal mess for developing academy kids, that's not even up for debate.
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Yeh besides Winks, Mason and Onomah to an extent) nobody really came through with Walker Peters definitely deserving more playing time then he got. Tbf this could also be down to our youth system being a non entity at the time as well.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
my buddy who played rugby explained it to me like this, in football the players spend most of the match trying to act like they're injured and in rugby they spend most of the match trying to act like they're not injured
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If you put football money into Rugby, where the difference between a win and a loss could be enormous, Rugby players would cheat.
The players in football rolling around isn't because they're weak and feeble, it's because they're cheating, trying desperately to win a free kick, or a penalty, or get an opponent sent off to gain an advantage.

The idea that a lot of players who do it are just a bit delicate is hilarious, most of these guys, whilst not Rugby players, are still 6ft+ athletes that would take most of the general population out without fuss.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
my buddy who played rugby explained it to me like this, in football the players spend most of the match trying to act like they're injured and in rugby they spend most of the match trying to act like they're not injured
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When I was in primary school a supply teacher went on a rant about how much he hated football and that it was just 22 hooligans kicking a bag of air around.

A few years later he turned up at my secondary school in the same supply capacity. Still seething about his prior outburst I challenged him to reiterate his views in front of the class. To my absolute horror he repeated his diatribe word for word, while the class just sat there, shocked.

And what sport did he like? Rugby.
 
Matt1882 said:
If you put football money into Rugby, where the difference between a win and a loss could be enormous, Rugby players would cheat.
The players in football rolling around isn't because they're weak and feeble, it's because they're cheating, trying desperately to win a free kick, or a penalty, or get an opponent sent off to gain an advantage.

The idea that a lot of players who do it are just a bit delicate is hilarious, most of these guys, whilst not Rugby players, are still 6ft+ athletes that would take most of the general population out without fuss.
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i don't watch rugby and i played football in the 80's when there was less play acting. it's not my favorite part of the sport but i accept it is what it is at this point. football has a culture of cheating that's part of the fabric of the game and it would be very hard to put that genie back in the bottle. but i can still make fun of these ridiculous people rolling around screaming and holding their heads when someone grazed their thigh
 
Richard Arlison said:
Got as far as that Johnny moron saying Poch would be playing our academy kids more and couldn't continue.

Where do we find these pillocks?

Not even coming at it from an a position of supporting Ange just from a position of being based on facts. Poch was a brutal mess for developing academy kids, that's not even up for debate.
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They seemingly decided they wanted to turn their hobby into a profession without any real expertise or insight. Dull, and derivative. I've never heard anything from them that wasn't already said elsewhere. We need better.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
i don't watch rugby and i played football in the 80's when there was less play acting. it's not my favorite part of the sport but i accept it is what it is at this point. football has a culture of cheating that's part of the fabric of the game and it would be very hard to put that genie back in the bottle. but i can still make fun of these ridiculous people rolling around screaming and holding their heads when someone grazed their thigh
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Both points sum it up ; being “ cute “ wins you games ( by fine margins if done consistently and systematically).

Poch and Mourinho are on record as saying that the “ home-developed” players needed to learn that “ skill “ .

Remember Ronaldo’s wink when he got Rooney sent of in 2006 , or Beckham “ felling “ Simeone in 1998 ?

In both cases ; English players were said to be “ naive “ .

As you say ; the genie is well and truly out of the bottle ( and over the hills and far away by now ) .

We’ll have to learn and live with it ; unless a solution can be found?

FWIW : I regret that the game has gone this way , very much so .
 
A very famous player played a Rugby league grand final the entire match basically, with a broken jaw. Not just a little broken either. Hold his mouth together sort of stuff.

He was the captain and he was not going to allow any to think he could be got the best of. They won it also.

The man to this day is very respected and well mannered gentleman. Over 70 and would still be tough as nails. The respect in the game comes from being tough. Feigning injury like an academy actor would see one looked upon as an embrassment. It would not go down well with anyone.

I note the ridiculous play acting was never an English thing. Watching in the 80s English and Italian football were two very different beasts in my humble opinion. Don't think I ever stayed awake long enough to watch an entire Italian game back then.
 
Harry Vaginola said:
i don't watch rugby and i played football in the 80's when there was less play acting. it's not my favorite part of the sport but i accept it is what it is at this point. football has a culture of cheating that's part of the fabric of the game and it would be very hard to put that genie back in the bottle. but i can still make fun of these ridiculous people rolling around screaming and holding their heads when someone grazed their thigh
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Absolutely. I hate the cheating, but unless the refs actually card players for it and they end up sent off and/or suspended, it'll neve go away.
Players should be absolutely ridiculed for it. Just don't suggest they're "not hard" etc. People, especially football haters need to learn the difference between blatant cheating and weakness.
 
If you're the sort of poster to relish the way the game was played in the 'old days' (whenever they are for you personally), then surely, surely your appreciate how straightforward Ange is in his interviews. Unless it doesn't suit your narrative.
 
Robba said:
A very famous player played a Rugby league grand final the entire match basically, with a broken jaw. Not just a little broken either. Hold his mouth together sort of stuff.

He was the captain and he was not going to allow any to think he could be got the best of. They won it also.

The man to this day is very respected and well mannered gentleman. Over 70 and would still be tough as nails. The respect in the game comes from being tough. Feigning injury like an academy actor would see one looked upon as an embrassment. It would not go down well with anyone.

I note the ridiculous play acting was never an English thing. Watching in the 80s English and Italian football were two very different beasts in my humble opinion. Don't think I ever stayed awake long enough to watch an entire Italian game back then.
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That's just fucking dumb though.
He got lucky that he didn't end up far worse off much less lucky he didn't cost his team.
Imagine a few season ago if Kane felt a niggle in his ankle and finished a game through the pain.
And then missed the whole of the next season because of it. Unless he scored a few goals to win us the game from a losing position, I would have been furious he risked our future games over pride.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Got as far as that Johnny moron saying Poch would be playing our academy kids more and couldn't continue.

Where do we find these pillocks?

Not even coming at it from an a position of supporting Ange just from a position of being based on facts. Poch was a brutal mess for developing academy kids, that's not even up for debate.
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Bloke talks absolute shite constantly - can't listen to him.
 
Matt1882 said:
If you put football money into Rugby, where the difference between a win and a loss could be enormous, Rugby players would cheat.
The players in football rolling around isn't because they're weak and feeble, it's because they're cheating, trying desperately to win a free kick, or a penalty, or get an opponent sent off to gain an advantage.

The idea that a lot of players who do it are just a bit delicate is hilarious, most of these guys, whilst not Rugby players, are still 6ft+ athletes that would take most of the general population out without fuss.
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No they wouldn't - you simply can't cheat in the same way you do in football. If you are not 100% committed all the time during games you get injured and beaten. The game doesn't even stop for players genuinely hurt in tackles and you don't win penalties from contact unless its illegal or dangerous. Its not comparable at all.

The refs are amazing and the closest thing you can get to 'cheating' is living on the edge which a lot of smart players do.
 
Hulk said:
No they wouldn't - you simply can't cheat in the same way you do in football. If you are not 100% committed all the time during games you get injured and beaten. The game doesn't even stop for players genuinely hurt in tackles and you don't win penalties from contact unless its illegal or dangerous. Its not comparable at all.

The refs are amazing and the closest thing you can get to 'cheating' is living on the edge which a lot of smart players do.
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Did I say they'd cheat in the same way?
I just said they'd cheat

How you get an advantage is irrelevant, getting it is all that matters in high level sport.
The higher the stakes, the more likely some one is to cheat.
 
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