And per my original post. cheating could easily be reffed out of the game of football. Especially with VAR.
But there seems to be no appetite to really do so.
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And per my original post. cheating could easily be reffed out of the game of football. Especially with VAR.
But there seems to be no appetite to really do so.
He's definitely on this forum as well
Its virtually impossible to cheat in Rugby, any infraction no matter how minor is punished, theres no diving, play acting, obstruction nothing - like I said living on the edge around breakdowns, scrums etc is just about all you can get away with in Rugby which is something I love about it.
You can't even stray offside more than once or twice in a short period of a game or giving away multiple penalties in a row to slow a game down without a player getting binned, its a fair sport and will remain that way no matter what they get paid.
Theres too much grey area in football to properly ref it out of the game imo. If someone feels contact they go down - only the people feigning injury after a tackle really know if they are hurt or not its not black and white imo therefore harder to enforce.
You hear it on comms all the time if theres the slightest contact whatsoever its seemingly ok to fall over and 'win' fouls. That simply does not and never will happen in Rugby.
We can watch 20 replays of incidents in football and still come to different conclusions, I just think its not possible at all and it going to be this way forever.
Seriously - you bring up the one and most mental case ever in the game from 15 years ago as an example of cheating? The player, coach and physio all banned for 1-3 years. A good example of how to crack down on cheats actually!Where there's a will and a creative mind, there's a way.
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There’s grey area because they intentionally leave it there in the wording of the laws. The wild swings in how they want to interpret the laws of football are by design imo. Maybe they are right to do that and we need the controversy but personally I’m just losing more faith in the officials because of it.
I watch Rugby though and not once am i questioning or even really thinking about the officials
A large part of top tier football is about manipulating the referee, with faking being fouled. It's not an honest game, it requires sneaky underhand cunts.
Exactly - controversial decisions are like hens teeth in Rugby. Its brilliantly officiated.
I think refs in football have a far harder job - like you say grey areas in the laws which are ever changing.
Dealing with spoilt uber rich brats on the pitch where they still to this day take shit from them over decisions.
Even with VAR you can't categorically say if somethings intentional sometimes as well - its just a very hard job made harder by the players and culture of the sport.
Agree and made harder, imo intentionally, by the wording and enforcement of the laws.
I mean, its not even hidden -
the amount of times I've hear a commentator praise players for how well they 'bought a foul'
its part of the job
Totally and it just shouldn't be.
One thing I have never understood was the lack of respect for officials being allowed. Players roaring and throwing their hands up at linos and refs and not getting punished. It should be a yellow card every single time that happens unless its a calm, well mannered question being asked.
I remember that United team in the 90s literally surrounding referees and screaming in their faces to get decisions - it was lunacy to allow that shit to continue.
Look at the example coaches give as well - the likes of Klopp, Mourinho, Arteta abusing 4th officials etc.
Kids watch that and think thats ok and here we are doing it at every level still.
I think referees in general have accepted it as part of the game, and usually just give the foul regardless.
There needs to be a code of conduct and players should receive suspensions. That's action that can be taken on review after the game.
Sounds worryingly close to an assessment of our footballing operation at present...
100% it would stop if this was properly implemented. I would say the same with yellow cards for diving but again, if theres even minor contact it can't really be deemed a dive so grey area again.
There should be a limit on how many simulation foul calls you could receive in a set number of games. Maybe a second or third simulation foul within 20 games and you get an immediate one game suspension. That said, I don't think that is a call that is made that often and it is very subjective. Another way to approach it might be that you don't suspend the player, but if a team gets a certain number of simulation fouls in a time frame the manager gets sat down for a game.
Postecoglou must know that Saturday is the game where he can lift the remaining pressure.
Like Slot yesterday, who for me is beginning to show some interesting traits, Postecoglou should know that beating ipswich would make it an improbable and unexpected 9 points from 9, and allow next Wednesday to be of minimal real importance.
It's all about the psychology of it and so what we need to do, is effectively be professional,get on the front foot and show in our way the clinical authority that Real Madrid showed last night.
By Saturday evening, Postecoglou could be sitting with his feet up for the first time in a while.
Like Slot yesterday, who for me is beginning to show some interesting traits, Postecoglou should know that beating ipswich would make it an improbable and unexpected 9 points from 9, and allow next Wednesday to be of minimal real importance.
It's all about the psychology of it and so what we need to do, is effectively be professional,get on the front foot and show in our way the clinical authority that Real Madrid showed last night.
By Saturday evening, Postecoglou could be sitting with his feet up for the first time in a while.
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Especially for certain teams
Bissouma is still the only player I can ever remember getting a second yellow for simulation
I doubt I ever see another in the the next 40 years of watching football