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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Hulk said:
No they wouldn't - you simply can't cheat in the same way you do in football. If you are not 100% committed all the time during games you get injured and beaten. The game doesn't even stop for players genuinely hurt in tackles and you don't win penalties from contact unless its illegal or dangerous. Its not comparable at all.

The refs are amazing and the closest thing you can get to 'cheating' is living on the edge which a lot of smart players do.
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You can grab blokes nuts an gouge their eyes
But roll around like some Roma fanny…, nope
 
Hulk said:
Theres too much grey area in football to properly ref it out of the game imo. If someone feels contact they go down - only the people feigning injury after a tackle really know if they are hurt or not its not black and white imo therefore harder to enforce.
You hear it on comms all the time if theres the slightest contact whatsoever its seemingly ok to fall over and 'win' fouls. That simply does not and never will happen in Rugby.
We can watch 20 replays of incidents in football and still come to different conclusions, I just think its not possible at all and it going to be this way forever.
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2 times players were effectively sent off for diving (2nd yellow)
Both times they get suspended.
Now imagine every player gets booked for diving. Every time. VAR check it. Every time. Dive, yellow. End of conversation.
For a few months, it'll slow the game down while the VAR and refs deal with it. But I tell you what, when those players start getting suspended over and over, their coaches are gonna tell them to stay on their fucking feet.
Could you introduce a 3rd card specific for diving. An orange card. 2 oranges in a season = 1 match bad. 3 = 3 match ban. No wiping the slate clean, they keep adding up over a season.
Could even say that if a player got 2 yellows and an orange in one game that the 1 match suspension from the 2 yellows is independent from the orange.
IMO, refs need to listen to fans and get tough on real problems in football. Instead of spending 6 or 7 minutes trying to rule out good goals, focus on the things that actually spoil the spectator sport.
Don't even get me started on time wasting. Nowhere near enough yellow cards and, if I was making the rules, I'd force every player pretending to be injured to be subbed off there and then. If it's that painful, GTFO the pitch and stay off it. Maybe even go to the hospital or the morgue from some of their reactions.
 
The last few pages on this thread have been a great read... I remember back in the day scouts would be looking for passing, shooting, tackling, dribbling, set pieces, heading and so on... now, a manager will be asking the scout... "how good is he at the dark arts"... "what's his shithousery like"... "is he a cunt, not stupid cunt but a clever cunt" - that was famous Mourinho line... go out there and be cunts [pause]... not stupid cunts, clever cunts!!! :dembelelol:
 
Another thing is the surrounding of referees... take a leaf out of rugby, if you're not the captain and you have approached me aggressively or otherwise then yellow card. You now have 3 seconds to walk away... if you don't and continue mouthing off... boom... second yellow and off you go. Captain can approach the referee and have an adult discussion whenever he wants but if he gets gobby... boom red card and vice captain is now in the spotlight... might finish a few games 8 a-side but after a while the players will get it. Mic up the referees as well... soon embarrass those players.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Bissouma is still the only player I can ever remember getting a second yellow for simulation

I doubt I ever see another in the the next 40 years of watching football
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It has to be a very difficult call to even make. I used to get annoyed watching Everton when Richarlison played there. He was consistently going to ground. In fairness, though, he made aggressive runs in tight spaces. He's just one of those players who will always believe he's been done.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Postecoglou must know that Saturday is the game where he cam lift the remaining pressure.

Like Slot yesterday, who for me is beginning to show some interesting traits, Postecoglou should know that beating ipswich would b make it an improbable and unexpected 9 points from 9, and allow next Wednesday to be of minimal real importance.

It's all about the psychology of it and so what we need to do, is effectively be professional,get on the front foot and show in our way the clinical authority that Real Madrid showed last night.

By Saturday evening, Postecoglou could be sitting with his feet up for the first time in a while.
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That's all he does anyway...
 
Matt1882 said:
Absolutely. I hate the cheating, but unless the refs actually card players for it and they end up sent off and/or suspended, it'll neve go away.
Players should be absolutely ridiculed for it. Just don't suggest they're "not hard" etc. People, especially football haters need to learn the difference between blatant cheating and weakness.
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the thing i'd like to see changed that would improve the game is to crack down on grabbing. it's football ffs and the hands shouldn't be as much of a factor as they are. corners, beat defenders, etc... way too much grabbing allowed and we'd have more scoring and less subjectivity from the refs if we cut down on it. it would take a period of adjustment but i think it's something that could be put in for the better
 
Engorged Onion said:
Only out for for 3 weeks?... I interpret that comment that he should be able to work at 100% capacity on game day? Have you ever been out for 3 weeks, done the rehab and then played 90minutes of football and run 10km at high intensity without fatiguing?

What happens if we're NOT bumbling along.. .

The inability for the majority of posters in this thread to understand nuance and context of injury, subsequent rehab, reintergration into the team and causational effect on performance astounds me... but then again, I guess not.

It's like its 1980's group think on here.
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He had a calf strain or something. I don’t think he was ill or had to have any kind of op. Probably rest and light training. Remember they had a strength conditioning pre season and really should be super fit now anyway.
 
Wight_Ranker said:
When I was in primary school a supply teacher went on a rant about how much he hated football and that it was just 22 hooligans kicking a bag of air around.

A few years later he turned up at my secondary school in the same supply capacity. Still seething about his prior outburst I challenged him to reiterate his views in front of the class. To my absolute horror he repeated his diatribe word for word, while the class just sat there, shocked.

And what sport did he like? Rugby.
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What was her name?
 
Harry Vaginola said:
the thing i'd like to see changed that would improve the game is to crack down on grabbing. it's football ffs and the hands shouldn't be as much of a factor as they are. corners, beat defenders, etc... way too much grabbing allowed and we'd have more scoring and less subjectivity from the refs if we cut down on it. it would take a period of adjustment but i think it's something that could be put in for the better
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These guys have taken it to an extreme.


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Maureen said:
He had a calf strain or something. I don’t think he was ill or had to have any kind of op. Probably rest and light training. Remember they had a strength conditioning pre season and really should be super fit now anyway.
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In terms of being 'super fit' - that's not how it work... Pre season was 6 months ago.. To sustain a level of fitness over that period of time is unrealistic, particularly if you get injured. Some athletes will need to do 'mini' pre seasons - within the season, particularly when they come back from injury... that's why - they're often slightly off for the first few games back...
 
Matt1882 said:
That's just fucking dumb though.
He got lucky that he didn't end up far worse off much less lucky he didn't cost his team.
Imagine a few season ago if Kane felt a niggle in his ankle and finished a game through the pain.
And then missed the whole of the next season because of it. Unless he scored a few goals to win us the game from a losing position, I would have been furious he risked our future games over pride.
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It was a Grand Final. Last game of the season so already had the off season to heal.
And not sure how much worse a broken jaw can get, once it’s broken. You know, it’s broken!
And i think he won MOM too.
 
OziBeerMan said:
It was a Grand Final. Last game of the season so already had the off season to heal.
And not sure how much worse a broken jaw can get, once it’s broken. You know, it’s broken!
And i think he won MOM too.
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Pretty sure is was John Sattler. Broken jaw in 3 places as a result of a terrible punch.

The tough as nails front-rower put his body on the line over and over again for his club with no more brutal moment than during the 1970 Grand Final.

In the opening 10 minutes Sattler was hit by Manly’s John Bucknall in a punch so vicious it shattered his jaw in three places.

Despite the gruesome injury, Sattler played out the game and kept the injury hidden from his teammates as he led them to glory.

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