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Management Ange Postecoglou

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jrg83 said:
Worst one was Liverpool at home when we somehow got it back to 2-1 just before half time, only for his bird brain tactics to allow us to go 3-1 down in stoppage time.
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Many goals have fucked me off this season (and last) but that one is at the very top.
We were out of the game at 2-0
At 2-1 just as the ref was about to blow, who knows. Maybe we could have sorted that out. Maybe we could have just kept it to a 2-1 loss.
Instead we end up 1-5 down at home, should have been 8 by the time we fluked a couple of goals and woke them back up again.
 
Matt1882 said:
Many goals have fucked me off this season (and last) but that one is at the very top.
We were out of the game at 2-0
At 2-1 just as the ref was about to blow, who knows. Maybe we could have sorted that out. Maybe we could have just kept it to a 2-1 loss.
Instead we end up 1-5 down at home, should have been 8 by the time we fluked a couple of goals and woke them back up again.
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That’s the game that perfectly demonstrates Anges shortcomings more than any other, everything about that game showed a manager out of his depth.
 
rusty said:
Wonder if Ange thinks about the stuff he's done wrong here, or does he think he's done everything right ?
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Man, he's just like Levy. They're perfect...proper visionaries, geniuses. They only make the best decisions, only they can play 4D chess. When it goes tits up? Nah it's obviously someone else's fault. They'll only take the blame for the cameras, but behind the scenes they're utterly convinced they're grandiose and the best thing to ever happen to Tottenham Hotspur.

Guarantee you Levy thinks, "Hey wait a minute, see where that club was when I took over. I've turned them into a perennial top 4-6 club. I won them a trophy. Under my leadership they made the CL Final and a few domestic semis. I attracted top managers like Jose and Conte...and turned unheralded Poch into a Real Madrid-calibre coach. I've signed several billions worth of players and lots of great names. I sold Bale to Real for a record fee...and built a special relationship with them. Did the same with Bayern for Kane. Also, I built the stadium and it's also me who's totally redefined the business side of the club. I have only done great, amazing things for the club. On the rare few occasions when things went to shit, it's because directors, managers, med staff, players, even fans...fucked up and didn't deliver. Also the media and refs are against us. I can't be held responsible for any of our fails. COYS, Daniel. "

As for that fat bastard Ange: "I got top 5 (after being P1 for weeks), we're in the EL quarter finals, narrowly lost to Liverpool in the Carabao Cup semis. I humiliated Man City and also smashed Man United. I've developed Archie, Bergvall, Spence...given other kids like Mikey their big break. My system is revolutionary...the media don't understand elite football so of course they're gonna criticise it, plus they hate me cause I'm an Ozzie. We've only ever lost games cause of injuries or fucking VAR. It's who I am, mate."
 
He's not getting sacked regardless of the wolves result as it doesn't matter.
One little ray of hope, should we get knocked out on Thursday, is that we don't play Forest until Monday. There's a little bit of room for the inevitable to happen.
But, TBH, I still think he'd be here, regardless of results, until after next Monday.
 
jrg83 said:
That’s the game that perfectly demonstrates Anges shortcomings more than any other, everything about that game showed a manager out of his depth.
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It also showed players aren't doing the obvious thing too often. I find it hard to believe they're all too stupid to be cautious. And that it's the players fault for such frequent, and identical brain farts.
It's the tactics. It's always been the tactics. I think Spence has even alluded to players doing what they're told to do whether they agree with it or not.

When a play pays off and we score. The fanbois are out in force saying it was a tactical masterstroke. But when it fails, as it so often does, it's the players fault.
But it's the same thing. A risky pass. Trying to press up the pitch leaving gaps at the back. It can't work all the time. So when it works how is it the coach and when it doesn't, it's the players?
 
jrg83 said:
That’s the game that perfectly demonstrates Anges shortcomings more than any other, everything about that game showed a manager out of his depth.
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That and Brighton and Chelsea.

Brighton 1st half really good, 2-0 up, they just make a couple of tweaks at H/T and strolled to a win without much effort. At soon as it went 2-1 it felt inevitable what would happen and Postecoglou did nothing, no tactical changes, no subs until too late.

Chelsea, started well enough, 2 slips from them and 2-0 up. Do we go more cautious, sit deeper and hit them on the counter? Course not, everyone carries on bombing forward like in a school playground and they pick us off with glaring holes at the back. An easy win again for the oppo despite being 2-0 down away from home. Embarrassing in game management
 
Don Pedro said:
What was his logic behind taking off Maddison for Sarr? Its insane what he does. Can't read a game at all
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Man, he shouldn't have started Udogie and Son...but he did. What message that sends to Djed and Odo?

Then waited til the 80th min to make subs, when Sonny was atrocious all night...and yes brought on Sarr for Mads when badly needing a goal. Also gave Richy only 2 or 3 minutes.

Once again we were flat & toothless in the first half...those patterns of play up front are diabolical. So predictable, so boring, so ineffective.

Once again we conceded first. Plus so easy to carve open the rest of the game...how many 3 or even 4v2 Frankfurt had? It's a miracle we didn't get punished...a braver & better team puts 3 or 4 past us last night.

The only credit I give him is for putting a rocket up their arse at HT. Not that it had that great an impact, mind you.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Maddison and Son looked knackered.
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Just a thought, but when you know that Maddison has shit stamina, which is something you could've figured out after only a couple training sessions...well maybe you could've put him on a special conditioning program the past 12ish months? May also help if he stopped coming so deep, pretending to be Pirlo or Xavi. Not arguing with the refs constantly would help save his energy too.

As for Sonny, go figure...maybe if he didn't start or play 90 week in week out, maybe he'd be a bit fresher come crunch time. Also seems rather logical to not use him as a touchline-hugging left winger in that shitty system where his space is clogged by Udogie and Maddison. He looks dead on his feet? Well maybe the club's hierarchy should leave him in fucking peace and stop using him as a commercial whore to attract all them South Korean business partnerships and matchday tourists.
 
Kaz Hirai said:
We'll see , if Frankfurt can't raise their level higher than this next week at home and if we play like we did second half then they won't get so lucky again
We'll also have Big kulu Sexy back 😎

Wouldn't play any starters against wolves at all.

It's not over yet.
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You do realise Frankfurt's gameplan was to sit back & counter? Knowing we'd fuck up, lose possession plenty and leave gigantic gaps at the back...whilst being rather toothless upfront.

They clearly came to get a draw, they trust themselves to get the job done at their ground.
 
Matt1882 said:
He's not getting sacked regardless of the wolves result as it doesn't matter.
One little ray of hope, should we get knocked out on Thursday, is that we don't play Forest until Monday. There's a little bit of room for the inevitable to happen.
But, TBH, I still think he'd be here, regardless of results, until after next Monday.
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i dont see why they would keep him after europa. the seasons done and fans cant stand the fat cunt.
 
PerthPaul said:
I agree with everything you say. My point was more that people are blaming Ange for the sake of blaming Ange.
We created a multitude of very good chances, it's then up to the skill of the players, and a bit of luck to turn those chances into goals.
I'm Ange out, and his tactical system of play over the season has been atrocious. However last night we actually played well enough to take a decent lead into the away fixture. Whether it was the football gods, or their keeper, it's unfortunate that it didn't happen. But as you say, it's not a failure that we can really point the blame at Ange for.

The enigma is whether we played well because they played badly, or they played badly because we played well.
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Pal, we hit the bar on a long-ranger from Lucas and a Roddy header from a corner.

Sonny's shot didn't need a worldie from their keeper, it ain't in the top corner a la Desire Doue. You'd expect your goalie to save that any day of the week.

That Micky chance is the big one. But he fucks it up. How he can be that tall & strong yet that shit at headers is beyond me.
 
Brian Fantana said:
This could be many times in any game from the last 18 months. You can't play football and expect to win games when you're facing this situation time and again.


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this is what i think of when i think of fat cunt. this is his hallmark on spurs.

shit football with FB's way out of position, lose the ball and facing situations like the one above. thats postecoglou...no wonder we are finishing 17th.
 
Thinking about it, it's even more inevitable he gets sacked if we go out next week.

I don't know if it will happen straight away, I think it will do. But, once we are out of the cup, and with our league campaign, there is nothing to play for, we have games against teams going for the CL/Europe and the title.

We will probably see even worse results and performances than we have done so far, if that's possible.

I expect a few hammerings. This side, under a dead duck manager and with nothing to play for, its going to be abysmal. So it will seal Ange's fate even more, because we will barely win another game this season, so he definitely won't survive.
 
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