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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
The weird / sad thing is that we are spending significantly more on players now than we ever did pre-stadium. NET spent is close to half a billion pounds in the last 5 years. Seriously. The problem is we're spending the money badly, and do not appear willing to pay higher wages for elite players. Instead we are paying a lot of money for potential (and low wages). £40M for Gray is a good example of a relatively ambitious transfer that has not helped us at all this season. Given we have a lot of young players with bags of potential (Gray, Bergvall, Sarr, Odobert, Moore, Kinsky etc.) and other good players who are still relatively young (Udogie, Spence, VdV, Johnson, Kulusevski), we need to buy seasoned leaders, winners. And they come at a premium. If we just signed three players this summer, aged 28-32, experienced leaders down the spine of the team, it would lift us massively. But they would want £200-300k per season. Instead everyone wants us to spend big money on more youngsters like Delap, Dibbling, Wharton etc. (a trap I fall into myself when in football manager mode). Maybe the best thing that can happen to us is a new manager with no European football next season, and proper purchases that will improve the first XI.
It doesn't seem to matter what, the club structure/strategy is it's always fucked and or flawed nothing ever works.
I no longer can see what the future holds or what is the answer.
A newcoach will do alright for a year and then it's back to normal again.
 
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Pal, we got Nuno then Ange cause nobody serious wanted to come here. Levy had to literally beg Jose & Conte, give them the paycheck of a lifetime and make false promises (not in writing).

Nagelsmann clearly rejected us despite the club's lame attempt at disguising the truth. Enrique, Zidane, Xabi Alonso, Simone Inzaghi wouldn't shag us with a borrowed dick.

If Thomas Frank, Iraola and Marco Silva got any sense, they'll stay put.
If I was an elite manager I'd be a bit tempted by the Spurs job, because it will be financially excellent, and the only way is up. Unless the next manager is another Coglou he cannot fail.
 
A new problem is starting to pop over the horizon here. Back in December, it was important to sack him to give a prospective next manager a chance to work the January window, and some time to bed in ahead of next season.

Now, with Ange still being there we are toying with the prospect of a rushed pre-season and a destabilised start to 2025/26 as we spend another summer trying to find a replacement.

I do hope some serious behind the scenes work is being put together on the football operations side but I have my doubts. If Ange does stay to own the full season of failure he must be sacked seconds after the final whistle against Brighton, Ancelotti 2011 style. This situation cannot fester over the summer. We need a manager having some sort of plan heading into pre-season not someone turning up on day one of it with a badge saying 'Hello, my name is Nuno and I'm new here.'
 
I can only be wrong if Frank takes over and challenges for the league every season. Everything else is opinion. It's like me saying you're wrong as Frank will be a completely fucking disaster. Let's not kid ourselves he is working on a shoe string either. He's not and his body of work is pretty ordinary. Also, who is to say LVG wouldn't have taken that squad and turned it into champions? You can't because he never got the opportunity.
You understood that you gave your opinion decrying people who want Iraola Silva or Frank. That's you giving and opinion and me saying your wrong because Pochettino did not have top of the league status when we got him this is provably true irrespective of what 'would have happened with LVG .

That's what we do debate ideas. I think you are wrong, and I don't need a year of Frank in the job or every season for ever to substantiate the opinion, no more than you misusing Blanchflowers quote makes the people who belive the hiring of the three coaches mentioned lacks ambition. You're own statements are contradictory and odd. Can't you see you have done exactly what you claim to have an issue with...ffs Oh and Frank is absolutely working on a shoestring budget compared to us Their record transfer fee is less than half of ours. Our turn over is six times greater than there's .
 
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Still, the Reddit massive are flying in front of the geezer to take a bullet for him.

Even calling Spurs fans "deluded" and "detached from reality" for expecting anything better for Spurs.

I hope all these cunts fuck off when he does.

I genuinely think most reddit football posters are about 15.

It’s just all YouTube influenced bollocks.
 
Mans got jokes :sonpoint:

Although people in here know you're trolling but they're all gonna react to you and have a complete meltdown over your post, get ready for some abuse as well ☠️
I was being genuine. Is winning the Europa League but finishing 17th in the league more impressive than finishing second in the league or reaching the CL Final?

I'm not even saying winning the EL is enough for Ange to save his job. I'd argue reaching the CL Final is a bigger achievement than winning the EL. But winning the first trophy in 17 years would be an amazing achievement all things considered.
 
I was being genuine. Is winning the Europa League but finishing 17th in the league more impressive than finishing second in the league or reaching the CL Final?

I'm not even saying winning the EL is enough for Ange to save his job. I'd argue reaching the CL Final is a bigger achievement than winning the EL. But winning the first trophy in 17 years would be an amazing achievement all things considered.

It would be a great achievement but fans are going to remember this season for the shite we had to put up with more than anything, record books might say so but fans don't forget.

There's a lot of misty eyed-ness over Poch and this fanbase isn't putting any memories of Ange over Poch no matter what we win with him.
 
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