Yep,pretty much.
Unless the players they missed are utterly brilliant we have nothing to fear, but there is something about this club, these players and this manager, that make all of that redundant.
I expect nothing but pain for the next 168 hours
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Yep,pretty much.
Unless the players they missed are utterly brilliant we have nothing to fear, but there is something about this club, these players and this manager, that make all of that redundant.
I expect nothing but pain for the next 168 hours
Son would have been ideal in the second half today. I hope he is fit for next week..
Yep. 100%.
The reality is we just play worse teams in the Europa league. So when Maddison & people on here talk about us playing well in Europe it’s all a bit misleading.
The fact United, a team with a 30 odd percent win rate under Amorim, will also be with us in a final tells you the quality of this competition.
Ange should go regardless.
sons not been ideal all year. hes well and truly finished.
Some success in europa competition is Nothing. Basement of Premier League flirting with Relegation is Everything.
Angie OUT Levy OUT.
COYS
So...we're one draw and one win from the Champions League next season, yes its through the back door...but we all deserve to get lucky once in a while.
In that regard if we do get through then we’ve a bigger issue assuming United get through which is likely they’re unbeaten in Europe this season the only team in any of the competitions…….just hand them the thing nowThey've typically stunk away in this comp but banged at home.
Will have their players back and a tricky artificial pitch they know every inch of inside out.
Really, we should have won 4-0 tonight, the way the game panned out.
And needed to come away with 3+, at least. imvho
Nonsense. It's not through the backdoor. Winning the Europa league is a massive achievement and deserves a champion's league spot.
Its not some success. We are very close to our first major trophy in decades.
Ange came into this club and promised to shake the Spurs loser attitude and turn us into a trophy winning team. It seems most fans on this forum value top 4 above any trophy - and that has historically been our issue - Top 4 is the only ambition - get the TV Champs League money, but its not worth risking the investment required to try and win the thing.
YES. 17th is a disgrace. BUT, Ange has laid the foundations and shown LEVY and the board that this team IS CAPABLE. We can achieve success - but if you want it across multiple competitions, you need a proper squad.
Ange has shown the board - You can have a trophy; or you can have top 4. You can't have both if you expect u21's to be a major part of the squad.
should have put the tie to bed tonight really we had enough of the game. One thing that you notice is that we press individually. It’s mostly pointless. Solanke, Richarlison and Tel especially worked hard off the ball but it’s wasted energy.
The other players behind half go but don’t really commit then get caught in no mans land. Think we could of won the ball back fairly often if we’d backed up the first bit.
The other players behind half go but don’t really commit then get caught in no mans land. Think we could of won the ball back fairly often if we’d backed up the first bit.
quite often when the players do try to press they have to run 10-15yds to press the player becuase their starting position is too far away from their player, again wasted energy
with individual players pressing and some on the back foot you get these weird big gaps that open up with one pass and you have players that are not affecting the game off the ball at all. Think we really could of been more aggressive on that side as didn’t feel their defenders were anything special on the ball to get out of that consistently.
At times its certainly felt like through the backdoor..
Richy at the left was giving us a different kind of aerial presence, outlet and press we were so lacking this season. We scored within a minute of the game because of Richy heading that ball back for Johnson. It's so obvious he had a positive impact to the game but Ange limited him to one fucking half.
Our subs often seemed to have let opponents coming back at us. It's really poor game management. Ange had no idea what to do but just doing it for the sake of it as if to show he's some genius. At games when we called for subs, he only did it late. At games when our players could have been playing more, he made subs at half time. Fuck me. There's not even any in between.
We don’t know the extent of some of the injuries either. The tie should be over, winning by 4 or 5 goals wouldn’t have been ridiculous yet I didn’t think we looked set up well to score. The goals were down to individual skill rather than team set up. Feels like I’m moaning for moaning’s sake but I think that’s just the huge frustration that we haven’t completely killed off the tie.
Barca play tiki-taka not Ange ball - and they've played like that for decades. You make it sound as if Barca copied Ange's way of playing - and they are way better at pressing btw.
This really says a bit about how the Bodø-Glimt players view Ange's pressure tactics. And, like their coach, Kjetil Knudsen, they are rather unusual open about it talking about an opponents tactics (or rather lack of it):
Center-back Jostein Gundersen: I don't like to put them down, but ...
Those European matches are a bit different. They come man-to-man and are surprised that we are so good at playing us out from behind..
"It is often more difficult to break down Norwegian Eliteserie teams in that phase of the game."
Right-back Fredrik Sjøvold in particular is feisty in the comments about Spurs.
Asked by Avisa Nordland's live studio to characterize Tottenham's pressing game, he is blunt stated:
"Ass!" ("Ræva" in Norwegian).
"I wouldn't say they're ass. It's a very good team and they're good with the ball, but the pressure is no better than an okay Norwegian top-flight team. It's possible to play it out."
Center-back Jostein Gundersen: I don't like to put them down, but ...
Those European matches are a bit different. They come man-to-man and are surprised that we are so good at playing us out from behind..
"It is often more difficult to break down Norwegian Eliteserie teams in that phase of the game."
Right-back Fredrik Sjøvold in particular is feisty in the comments about Spurs.
Asked by Avisa Nordland's live studio to characterize Tottenham's pressing game, he is blunt stated:
"Ass!" ("Ræva" in Norwegian).
"I wouldn't say they're ass. It's a very good team and they're good with the ball, but the pressure is no better than an okay Norwegian top-flight team. It's possible to play it out."
United were aided by a red card and penalty away from home when they were getting dominated.
IF EL SFs are so easy, why haven't we reached one in the PL era? We've been in this competition plenty, surely we should have won it a few times if it is such a piece of piss to reach the SF?