Your last sentence nailed it.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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He hasn’t defended the club in the slightest. His whole modus operandi has been to play down the achievements of the club to defend himself. On the eve of Bodo Glimt, he said this club isn’t used to getting to semi finals - we’ve been in 8/9 over the last 10 years.
Compare him to Amorim. Amorin is a winner who is disgusted with his team’s league form. Ange is just a chancer who only cares about backing up “I always win a trophy in my 2nd season” .
As for his comment “If getting to finals is so easy, why aren’t the top 3 in one”? - I mean how utterly thick is that?? Is he comparing Arse playing Real Madrid and PSG to us playing Frankfurt and Bodø Glimt??
Is he saying that Liverpool winning the EPL isn’t as significant as getting to a Europa final. And they walloped us in the League cup semi final to get to a final.
Oh and Man City are in a final anyway.
The bloke is an utter fucking plank.
If we win the Europa, it’s in spite of, not because of him. I’m bloody annoyed that my enjoyment of next week’s trip hinges on that arrogant, gaslighting baffoon enjoying it with me.
Hes a shit manager. Ange Postecog-loo.
I'd say there is little point in looking at what positions Spurs need to strengthen until Angelos has gone and a new head-caoch has assessed the present players thoroughly, which is why I was so keen on letting Angelos go months ago. People keep saying that Spurs need WFs who will take players on but Spurs do actually have them somewhat, but it's clear Ange doesn't want them to take on their full backs. He wants them to get wide, make half a yard and put in crosses at the first opportunity or make space for the inverted FBs. I wonder why though because it's not like Spurs are flooding the box to get on the end of those crosses nor have the air dominance for it.
It's all just confusing messages and poorly coached tactical play. No player is really going to fulfil their potential if they can't play to their strengths. But Angelos believes his philosophy and system is more important than a player’s strengths and weakness'. It isn’t.
It's all just confusing messages and poorly coached tactical play. No player is really going to fulfil their potential if they can't play to their strengths. But Angelos believes his philosophy and system is more important than a player’s strengths and weakness'. It isn’t.
Well, if we look at this season, he did rest VDV, Romero and Udogie for all the early cup fixtures; so, any accusation that they were overplayed is unfounded.
Quite simply, if as a coach the backup players you are given by the club are young and inexperienced (Bergvall, Gray, Spence, Odobert, Moore, Sarr, Dragusin, Tel, Kinsky) or are just plan crap (Werner, Regguilon, Bissouma) then it makes rotation of the squad difficult - because you are far more likely not to get a decent performance. Senior players such as Davies and Son are showing their age and Bentancur and Richarlison both coming off a very injuries that could have been career ending.
The club needs to furnish Ange (or whomever our next coach is) with a BALANCED squad. The team on the pitch needs to have the right level of experience and ability no matter what rotation we have.
Any coach in world football with the squad and injuries we have had this season would be sitting in the bottom half of the table. The question you have to really ask :
1. How many of those coaches would have thrown their toys out the pram, lambasted the owner and sulked (e.g. Jose, Conte, Poch)
2. How many of those coaches would have sacrificed their own job to get the bare bones team into a European final.
Errr, we’re fucking horribly, relentlessly shit - has defending Ange all this time made you lose your ability to see what’s in front of you on a football pitch?
Fuck off
Many Factors why Spurs have got to the Europa final and it has nothing to do with Ange. It's the level of opponent faced. The EPL is an elite league where the competition is fierce and even the Ipswich's of this world can beat anyone. Take a look at the 2 finalists, both Man Utd and Tottenham are sitting 16th and 17th in the EPL. The competition isn't as competitive hence 2 god awful teams in the final. As for Postecoglu he is done here and doesn't deserve any credit for the season he has put us as supporters through - There's a reason Ange will be remembered as one of the worst managers Tottenham have ever had.
Mate, you're trying to evolve this into something different to the original premise you set. The Leicester side was rebuilt due to them selling off their prize assets, not because of the "damage" done by the previous manager. Totally different scenario.
I acknowledged that Forest are having a freak season? They bought in a raft of players that the previous manager couldn't get a proper tune out of. Nuno has come in and essentially fixed that in a single season. THAT is the point I'm getting across. They may not hit the current heights again, but it is highly unlikely they'll be back flirting with relegation again.
You could say the same for Iraola. It took him half a season to take relegation flirting Bournemouth to a team that is admired by all, and he lost his star striker as well.
Again, this is irrelevant to the original premise. Both teams were able to undo previous "damage" in a single season. Leicester may have fallen back from what they achieved when they won the title, but that was due to player sales, not because the same team turned back to shit again. Had they kept their key players you may have a point, but they didn't. Forest can't be construed as a freak season until we see whether they revert. They've invested heavily in playing staff and Nuno has them ticking. It remains to be seen whether they maintain a similar level or not. Even if they don't, getting them to challenge in the top half regularly is an achievement compared to previous managers with the same squad. In other words, the "damage" from the previous manager was fixed in a season.
That's only part of the equation. The massive injury list has had an enormous impact as well. All have contributed to a "freak season" for us where confidence in the league is in the gutter. That confidence is only apparent in the EL, and that is largely because the tactics have helped the team to play with a lot more solidity. It has been apparent to all that we are a better side when the setup provides that platform. Why we haven't adopted the same setup in the league is anyone's guess, but I think the majority would agree that had we, we'd be a good way higher in the league.
This team is young with absolutely shot confidence, and it will remain that way if we continue to play the gung ho Football we've played virtually all this season. A reset, with more solidity will, I believe, allow for confidence to build and momentum to be built.
The long and the short of this is that we will have to wait until next season to see who we get in and how they set us up. We can revisit then.
17th in the league.
Last season I said it. I was in the minority, but I said it.
Lose the next 2, which is likely, not just possible, and we finish the season on 1 point per game.
I showed how, over every period of games after those first 10, that the ppg was tumbling downwards at an alarming rate.
That began LAST season. No Europe. Out of the league cup at the first hurdle. No FA Cup run. And STILL the ppg was getting worse and worse.
If this guy is here next season, we're in actual trouble.
That’s embarrassing
Come on.... We've ALWAYS released Cup Final merch BEFORE the game...
'81, '82, '87, '91, 2002, '08 & '19 we did it ..
Some finals we won, some we lost...
THAT'S not the problem, it's NOT turning UP in the FINAL when it matters, that MATTERS!
Our almighty run to the Europa League final has seen wins against such mighty opposition as
Qarabag at home
Ferencvaros away
AZ at home twice
Hoffenheim, 16th in Germany away
Elfsborg at home
Frankfurt away
Bodo glimt, a club with 8k seats in the north pole, twice.
We got utterly outplayed and beaten by Galatasaray. Lucky to get draws Vs Rangers and Roma. Beat by AZ away when we were awful.
This has not been some character defining run to a final. This has simply been 2 English Clubs (same applies to United here) actually taking the competition seriously for once and playing the "best" 11 in the Europa and "resting" them for the PL. There's no magic from Ange. If we win this, it's not because he has a super power of always winning something in his 2nd season. It's a competition full of poor teams. Poor financially and poor technically.
And we could still be the more shit team in a final featuring 2 shit teams.
Qarabag at home
Ferencvaros away
AZ at home twice
Hoffenheim, 16th in Germany away
Elfsborg at home
Frankfurt away
Bodo glimt, a club with 8k seats in the north pole, twice.
We got utterly outplayed and beaten by Galatasaray. Lucky to get draws Vs Rangers and Roma. Beat by AZ away when we were awful.
This has not been some character defining run to a final. This has simply been 2 English Clubs (same applies to United here) actually taking the competition seriously for once and playing the "best" 11 in the Europa and "resting" them for the PL. There's no magic from Ange. If we win this, it's not because he has a super power of always winning something in his 2nd season. It's a competition full of poor teams. Poor financially and poor technically.
And we could still be the more shit team in a final featuring 2 shit teams.
No point asking this every day. It will not happen. The bigger concern is whether Levy does it after the season if we do bag the ropey league. THAT is the debate now.
Yes he will. He knows it, the players know it. My only concern is how long it drags out. If we win and do a parade would they keep him on for that? I'd hope not. They need to take their thumbs out of their arses which have been shoved up there for the last 8 months and sack him the day after the final if we lose or the day after Brighton if we win.
It'll be end of season at the earliest. Don't waste your energy.