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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I’ve been Ange out since early in the season. BUT…

I think he should get another season.

The guy needs to change how we defend but he isn’t an idiot. He’s not clueless or out of his depth like some of our managers have been. He’s not lost the respect of the players.

And he has won something meaningful which others simply have not. What does changing managers do now? Just puts us back where we have been, the new manager would probably fail like all the rest.

Better to stick with a guy who despite his flaws somehow got the job done anyway. And who clearly believes (genuinely i think) that he can deliver more. What does changing managers we lose from giving him a chance? It’s not like we have someone like Pep lined up to come in to almost certainly do better.

17th? Who cares, once we weren’t getting top five the league didn’t matter, that’s why we finished where we did. And arguably we didn’t challenge for top five because injuries killed our season before Christmas.

So I’m Ange in.

I’d get someone in to help him sort the defensive tactics out though. There’s just no need to be that suicidal against teams with good attacks.
 
By the time of the final in 2019 our form, squad and relationship with Pochettino were very obviously in terminal decline, and we achieved that final (to say nothing of the cavalcade of other results that somehow cushioned our slide out of the top 4 down the stretch of the league season) by sheer fluke luck.

If you want to make the point that being a truly great team feeling that we can take on any challenger and with a bright future in front of us is a bigger accomplishment than nicking the Europa League in 17th, the moment to make that comparison is the closing of WHL, not the 2019 final.
I guess I don’t totally understand your point in the second paragraph. I consider the CL final run to be emblematic and a deserving run for how good we were in that time.
 
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I’ve been Ange out since early in the season. BUT…

I think he should get another season.

The guy needs to change how we defend but he isn’t an idiot. He’s not clueless or out of his depth like some of our managers have been. He’s not lost the respect of the players.

And he has won something meaningful which others simply have not. What does changing managers do now? Just puts us back where we have been, the new manager would probably fail like all the rest.

Better to stick with a guy who despite his flaws somehow got the job done anyway. And who clearly believes (genuinely i think) that he can deliver more. What does changing managers we lose from giving him a chance? It’s not like we have someone like Pep lined up to come in to almost certainly do better.

17th? Who cares, once we weren’t getting top five the league didn’t matter, that’s why we finished where we did. And arguably we didn’t challenge for top five because injuries killed our season before Christmas.

So I’m Ange in.

I’d get someone in to help him sort the defensive tactics out though. There’s just no need to be that suicidal against teams with good attacks.
Ange very slowly is learning. I really hope he can turn this into respectable league form again. If he can all is forgiven.
 
Can't wait for season 3. Fingers crossed all the tinpot fans who didn't enjoy season 2 have fucked off by that point and we can get fully behind the team / manager. Maybe in the process put as much pressure on the ownership / board as possible to make sure the correct signings are made.
 
Conte couldn’t win anything with our players and he’s about to win the league with Napoli. Ange has won the EL and thereby qualified for CL which is way bigger than the league cup. He deserves another season at least. Get rid 6 months in if it’s still a disaster. Also with CL qualification we should spend more money and strengthen the squad this summer.
 
I’ve been Ange out since early in the season. BUT…

I think he should get another season.

The guy needs to change how we defend but he isn’t an idiot. He’s not clueless or out of his depth like some of our managers have been. He’s not lost the respect of the players.

And he has won something meaningful which others simply have not. What does changing managers do now? Just puts us back where we have been, the new manager would probably fail like all the rest.

Better to stick with a guy who despite his flaws somehow got the job done anyway. And who clearly believes (genuinely i think) that he can deliver more. What does changing managers we lose from giving him a chance? It’s not like we have someone like Pep lined up to come in to almost certainly do better.

17th? Who cares, once we weren’t getting top five the league didn’t matter, that’s why we finished where we did. And arguably we didn’t challenge for top five because injuries killed our season before Christmas.

So I’m Ange in.

I’d get someone in to help him sort the defensive tactics out though. There’s just no need to be that suicidal against teams with good attacks.
He just needs to find the balance between defending and attacking.
You can't be as suicidal as we have been and ,although in tbe EL they have ground it out, you can't constantly sit that deep and invite pressure either.
If he can get the team to defend and attack with balance then, this club could really go places.
Levy needs to give him a shit load of money this summer and put together a decent squad.
That's going to be the acid test, whether he returns to the cost cutting ways.
 
Can't wait for season 3. Fingers crossed all the tinpot fans who didn't enjoy season 2 have fucked off by that point and we can get fully behind the team / manager. Maybe in the process put as much pressure on the ownership / board as possible to make sure the correct signings are made.

How can you criticise Spurs fans for not enjoying the worst season in living memory up until Wednesday night? Winning the trophy doesn't erase the 9 months of fucking shocking shite football. We finished 17th. Yes we can forget about that now and enjoy the trophy but it doesn't mean all those 9 months of football were anhy less shit.

How have you watched the whole fucking season and not worked out that Ange's system and tactics have been brutally exposed by almost every single PL team including relegated Leicester and Ipswich?

It's nothing to do with correct signings, they will still be coming in and playing under a manager who hasn't a clue unfortunately.

You just won't learn will you? How much mor evidence do you need?

Emotion and sound bites from Ange on a mic isn't going to win us 3 points regularly next season under Ange, sorry to say.
 
He’s been told he’s staying for sure
Well at the end of the day if he’s replaced we’re back to square one again, every one o they names mentioned in the replacement thread are no an instant fix it’s another 18 month in the wilderness at least we what we’ve got he’s settled, squad is settled and are with him so another season is no the end of the world , it’s not like we’re going fall further behind .
 
How can you criticise Spurs fans for not enjoying the worst season in living memory up until Wednesday night? Winning the trophy doesn't erase the 9 months of fucking shocking shite football. We finished 17th. Yes we can forget about that now and enjoy the trophy but it doesn't mean all those 9 months of football were anhy less shit.

How have you watched the whole fucking season and not worked out that Ange's system and tactics have been brutally exposed by almost every single PL team including relegated Leicester and Ipswich?

It's nothing to do with correct signings, they will still be coming in and playing under a manager who hasn't a clue unfortunately.

You just won't learn will you? How much mor evidence do you need?

Emotion and sound bites from Ange on a mic isn't going to win us 3 points regularly next season under Ange, sorry to say.

OK so let’s bring in a new manager and finish 6th and exit the group stage of the CL - sounds fun! I preferred season 2.
 
I guess I don’t totally understand your point in the second paragraph. I consider the CL final run to be emblematic and a deserving run for how good we were in that time.
The Poch era had completely broken as of about the first of the year 2019, following on from the yearlong self-imposed transfer embargo by Levy.

The CL final run was the era of the Winks-Sissoko double pivot and the total disappearance of Kieran Trippier's form.

Played comprehensively off the park by City and Ajax, and took 11 points from our final 12 league games.

This "reaching a CL final is true greatness, unlike winning the EL" narrative does not fit the data of the absolute shower we were by the time we got there.
 
This is like when you know you’re drunk and one more shot is going to make you sick in the morning, but fuck it I’m feeling great right now so one more shot and season!

(Definitely think we’ll be hungover in October).
 
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