Is he behind me?
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I think this applies to a number of folks on here...talk about not being able to see the woods for the trees...and rose tinted spectacles..
Richy giving the two finger salute after Ange said “I told them and they laughed” didn’t see that the first time 
View: https://x.com/andrewharts/status/1925986532738859403?s=46
View: https://x.com/andrewharts/status/1925986532738859403?s=46
Are you saying I’m gay?
If I was, what exactly would be wrong with that?
Are you a bigoted homophobe, or do you just make jokes about being one?
Does drinking in a lady boy bar make you gay?
Any way I’m done with you , I got better things to do then waste any more time on you , must be a great life you have in BK considering you spend all your time on here trying to shit all over our recent achievements, any way don’t bother replying !
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Can't anyone hold two thoughts at once?
+Getting a trophy was great and euphoric.
+The last two years have been godawful, and if we hadn't won Wednesday Ange would already be sacked, and the decision would have 99% approval among the fan base.
He didn't become a different man in 24 hours. Winning this doesn't change the future prospects. The club didn't suddenly surge upward at the end of the season. We'd broken mast and rudder and were listing for months, before putting a performance together (more or less) on Wednesday that was good enough.
All odds are that the third year will be just like the first two, minus the trophy. We are not waltzing through road apples in the CL next year the way we did in Europa this year.
An average manager would be an upgrade so go get one. Ange is still a liability and we can't punt this chance to turn the club around.
People like to make up scenarios then assuming they will happen, for the worse, unfortunately.
I see what supporting this team has done to them.
But I thought the win on Wednesday supposed to give us renewed hopes, if 17 years of starvation wasn't enough.
Some people are forever pessimists I guess...
And I tell you guys the non-believers something, a new manager wouldn't be any different from the possibility of a shit show repeating, when a new chapter with history re-written already happened and could continue to happen.
But there are no certainties who could be right and who could be wrong. What's dead certain will be the reset if Ange was replaced. And coming off a huge success from the last 48 hours, it's really ridiculous for that to happen.
I see what supporting this team has done to them.
But I thought the win on Wednesday supposed to give us renewed hopes, if 17 years of starvation wasn't enough.
Some people are forever pessimists I guess...
And I tell you guys the non-believers something, a new manager wouldn't be any different from the possibility of a shit show repeating, when a new chapter with history re-written already happened and could continue to happen.
But there are no certainties who could be right and who could be wrong. What's dead certain will be the reset if Ange was replaced. And coming off a huge success from the last 48 hours, it's really ridiculous for that to happen.
The irony is, had we lost on Wednesday, our prospects for a new manager would have been EXTREMELY dim, this would be a job to absolutely flee from, and yet it would have been a simple decision, Ange had failed, time to move onto something else, even if it's a mediocrity like Marco Silva (and even he might not have taken the job).
But by winning, Ange has made the job MUCH more attractive (CL qualification and money is a big deal, but also getting the trophy monkey off the club's back makes it IMMESURABLY less toxic of an environment) and so now that he's in the frame to retain the job, his potential competition is much stronger.
I really only have two takes to offer on the situation.
1. I think it would behoove the club to take a second to breathe and think it over. What are the summer squad needs looking like and what is the backroom structure making those decisions? What kind of tactics does Ange even want to play moving forward? How strong is his support in the dressing room really? Hard to have good, confident answers to these questions in the fog of victory.
2. I am resolved not to be mad either way. It's a tricky one.
Right, yeah, that's a good way to frame it. Not sure how promising that avenue looks, even with the CL boon.
Yeah let's keep him and waste a chance to get back to being competitive again
That’s a very sensible approach IMHO.
Ange has that steel and bullish mentality to win trophies. Not sure though hes expansive or creative enough tactically with the demands of premier league or dealing with injuries. Quite a tricky decision by board to make. United had same problem with Ten Haag.
Extremely!
Bare minimum if we stick with Ange, we need a comprehensive overhaul of the coaching staff behind him.
People with top pedigree with Ange head of motivational speeches and cheerleading!
There is no denying that our league season was a shambles. Advancing the argument that this was entirely down to our injury crisis doesn't really wash. Ange's suggestion that he made a decision in January to blow off the league and concentrate on winning the EL sounded like 20/20 hindsight bullshit when he said it.
The last two days have been revelatory. The unbridled joy among the fans at being winners again has been awesome to be part of. The scenes today have brought home to us again that we are, when all is said and done, one of the world's truly great clubs with a heritage and pedigree to equal the best of them. In the last few years a lot of us have lost sight of that.
Forget the clouding effect of the emotional high for a moment. I have a sneaking suspicion that Ange might actually have been serious when he said he blew off the league in January. We were never going to qualify for the CL in the league at that stage. He said, when he came in, that he wanted to change our mind set and that we needed to be winners. He committed himself to winning in his second season.
Maybe, just maybe, he meant it. Maybe he did focus on the EL. He set the team up to do whatever it took to get to the final and win the damn thing. Yes we were fortunate with the draw, but we still had to win it. A lot of teams in the EL were not in vintage form but to suggest the likes of Utd, Lazio, Porto, Roma, Frankfurt, Athletico, Ajax etc do not have strong European pedigree is ridiculous.
We are now winners again. Ange brought us that. 'Arry didn't, Conte didn’t, Mourhino didn't, Poch didn't. Ange did, and I'm here all day for feeling like I have since Wednesday.
Give him a chance to show he can bring us more success.
Apologies for the essay.
The last two days have been revelatory. The unbridled joy among the fans at being winners again has been awesome to be part of. The scenes today have brought home to us again that we are, when all is said and done, one of the world's truly great clubs with a heritage and pedigree to equal the best of them. In the last few years a lot of us have lost sight of that.
Forget the clouding effect of the emotional high for a moment. I have a sneaking suspicion that Ange might actually have been serious when he said he blew off the league in January. We were never going to qualify for the CL in the league at that stage. He said, when he came in, that he wanted to change our mind set and that we needed to be winners. He committed himself to winning in his second season.
Maybe, just maybe, he meant it. Maybe he did focus on the EL. He set the team up to do whatever it took to get to the final and win the damn thing. Yes we were fortunate with the draw, but we still had to win it. A lot of teams in the EL were not in vintage form but to suggest the likes of Utd, Lazio, Porto, Roma, Frankfurt, Athletico, Ajax etc do not have strong European pedigree is ridiculous.
We are now winners again. Ange brought us that. 'Arry didn't, Conte didn’t, Mourhino didn't, Poch didn't. Ange did, and I'm here all day for feeling like I have since Wednesday.
Give him a chance to show he can bring us more success.
Apologies for the essay.
Sounds like you spend a lot of time imagining what reality is. Rent free dawg. Enjoy yourself.