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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
spursfan76 said:
And once he missed to qualify with celtic. Lost to a norwegian team. Did he use that as a motivation to secure 17th place in the league?
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No shit. People think he's going to stagger into a CL trophy next? Come on.

We couldn't put a shot on target against the worst Man U team in living memory, who are still above us in the table by the way, but people think because he "has the dressing room" his woeful squad is going to put on a display against Inter or Liverpool or whomever heads our CL group?

"Well, Levy will spend, he has to invest now" Listen to yourselves.

We all know very well if Ange is back he'll be sacked before winter, so why waste the summer window and the first quarter of the season, and end up with the type of manager who's available in October?

Let Paratici come in and say you've deferred to him. Let him thank Ange and say the club is charting a new course. Let the next manager work with the DOF on summer transfers. Let the players take their holiday getting used to the idea and come back ready to fight for their place.
 
So here’s a question for you all. If they sack a trophy winning manager in Ange who do they replace him with? Who could endure the pressure and improve the side? If they sack Ange after he’s just done what Mourinho, Conte and Poch couldn’t and with arguably a weaker squad, what’s the incoming manager going to think about his job security?
It really is a quandary. Who do we get? Silva ? done well this year but was shit at Everton and has won nothing. Frank? He’s unlikely to leave Brentford. Glasner has said he doesn’t want it. That leaves untried(in the epl) managers.
I might be biased as an Aussie, but surely Ange has earned another season.

GO SPURS GO
 
GoSpursGo said:
So here’s a question for you all. If they sack a trophy winning manager in Ange who do they replace him with? Who could endure the pressure and improve the side? If they sack Ange after he’s just done what Mourinho, Conte and Poch couldn’t and with arguably a weaker squad, what’s the incoming manager going to think about his job security?
It really is a quandary. Who do we get? Silva ? done well this year but was shit at Everton and has won nothing. Frank? He’s unlikely to leave Brentford. Glasner has said he doesn’t want it. That leaves untried(in the epl) .
I might be biased as an Aussie, but surely Ange has earned another season.

GO SPURS GO
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1 PPG in the league. He's the worst manager Spurs have had in decades.

It is absolutely bonkers by any measure on earth to offer a third year to that manager
 
daveyboy88 said:
hey?? for winning the europa? winning mentality is built of the back of winning games consistently. do you think the wigan players had a winning mentality cos they won the FA cup? weve lost 21 games and probably going to be 22 in the league on sunday..weve won 11...we do not have a winning mentality all of a sudden for beating a shit united side thanks to an own goal from a tubby bastard.

the win gives the players a huge confidence boost yes, but winning mentality? no chance.
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Winning mentality is instilled from wanting to put the body on the line to win a trophy. It's about wanting it more than the opposition. Our best side in decades lost to fucking Colchester, lost multiple FA Cup semi-finals, and lost embarrassingly to the likes of Gent, and a shitty Juventus.
I hate them, but that's been the difference between us and Chelsea. Chelsea, even on shit seasons, still found ways to win silverware, because players had that mentality when it mattered. How hard is it to understand?
 
So I'm not convinced on Ange's abilities as a head coach, but he's proved himself to be one hell of a leader.
A comparison with Conte is interesting at this stage. No one would question Conte's tactical credentials but a manager like him who was more focused on his own ego than understanding what the club needed and delivering it - always going to fail. Ange recognised the big psychological changes needed for a traumatised club like us to win something again and delivered an effective plan. He's had the balls to show the strong leadership required and the emotional intelligence to know exactly what buttons to press with his team and how to sell a vision. And he has a winners mentality.
I don't think he's currently the full package as a great manager, but in the Europa campaign he's finally shown some movement in one of my biggest criticisms of him, his inflexibility.
He's absolutely earned the right to stay but I think having a coaching team that challenges him sometimes and compensates for his weaker areas needs to be addressed as a priority. However, managers like him with the ability to communicate a vision are a rare breed and I don't see another one waiting in the wings.
 
Gilded Lily said:
So I'm not convinced on Ange's abilities as a head coach, but he's proved himself to be one hell of a leader.
A comparison with Conte is interesting at this stage. No one would question Conte's tactical credentials but a manager like him who was more focused on his own ego than understanding what the club needed and delivering it - always going to fail. Ange recognised the big psychological changes needed for a traumatised club like us to win something again and delivered an effective plan. He's had the balls to show the strong leadership required and the emotional intelligence to know exactly what buttons to press with his team and how to sell a vision. And he has a winners mentality.
I don't think he's currently the full package as a great manager, but in the Europa campaign he's finally shown some movement in one of my biggest criticisms of him, his inflexibility.
He's absolutely earned the right to stay but I think having a coaching team that challenges him sometimes and compensates for his weaker areas needs to be addressed as a priority. However, managers like him with the ability to communicate a vision are a rare breed and I don't see another one waiting in the wings.
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So what are your expectations in his third season? It seems most would be happy with a top 5 finish?
 
SpursNation said:
So what are your expectations in his third season? It seems most would be happy with a top 5 finish?
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He’s just said S3 is better than 2. The guy loves the taste of his own spunk. He’s serious.

It doesn’t mean we will, but the only way you can beat winning a Europa League is a league or champions league title. I’m not that naive to think it’ll happen of course, but if he’s doubling down on things, a league or FA Cup won't do.

Unless he walks, he’s staying. Let’s see what happens in the Super Cup.
 
Murphy said:
He’s just said S3 is better than 2. The guy loves the taste of his own spunk. He’s serious.

It doesn’t mean we will, but the only way you can beat winning a Europa League is a league or champions league title. I’m not that naive to think it’ll happen of course, but if he’s doubling down on things, a league or FA Cup won't do.

Unless he walks, he’s staying. Let’s see what happens in the Super Cup.
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Right, so what is your pass mark?
 
FightingIllini said:
The Poch era had completely broken as of about the first of the year 2019, following on from the yearlong self-imposed transfer embargo by Levy.

The CL final run was the era of the Winks-Sissoko double pivot and the total disappearance of Kieran Trippier's form.

Played comprehensively off the park by City and Ajax, and took 11 points from our final 12 league games.

This "reaching a CL final is true greatness, unlike winning the EL" narrative does not fit the data of the absolute shower we were by the time we got there.
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Every team at some point needs luck, on Wednesday we got some in respect we were playing a dogshit Utd team any other half decent team from any other country we’d have been in trouble but hey ho that’s how it goes…….Pochettino had luck in buckets on that run to the CL final we didn’t get there because we were good we got lucky……
 
Gilded Lily said:
So I'm not convinced on Ange's abilities as a head coach, but he's proved himself to be one hell of a leader.
A comparison with Conte is interesting at this stage. No one would question Conte's tactical credentials but a manager like him who was more focused on his own ego than understanding what the club needed and delivering it - always going to fail. Ange recognised the big psychological changes needed for a traumatised club like us to win something again and delivered an effective plan. He's had the balls to show the strong leadership required and the emotional intelligence to know exactly what buttons to press with his team and how to sell a vision. And he has a winners mentality.
I don't think he's currently the full package as a great manager, but in the Europa campaign he's finally shown some movement in one of my biggest criticisms of him, his inflexibility.
He's absolutely earned the right to stay but I think having a coaching team that challenges him sometimes and compensates for his weaker areas needs to be addressed as a priority. However, managers like him with the ability to communicate a vision are a rare breed and I don't see another one waiting in the wings.
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Well said.
 
Shadydan said:
Because your entire post went off into a tangent of nonsense and irrelevance, hence why it was drivel.

let's circle this argument back a bit, this is what you originally said:





That's not me twisting, those are literally your words and I haven't once even spoke about Spurs in our exchange so who's twisted who's words here?

The reason I responded is because you were so desperate to paint Woolwich as a top European club, it's actually laughable because they have won fuck all in Europe, you don't get respect for challenging or putting pressure on, or going close or beating former champions in one off matches, you get the respect and accolades when you win, that's how you became a 'force in European football' it's as simple as that.
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It's you who comes up with drivel rather than logical arguments.
And unlike I and don't see things just from within the Spurs bubble but I see things as they are in this objective football world. And no, I am not desperate to paint Woolwich as a among the better teams in Europe but fact is that they are considered to be among the top teams this season from their results ((which doesn't mean they are better than the "real big" teams).
Ending 2nd in the EPL and knocking out the favorites to win the CL this season, Real M., and beating them both home and away, does put Woolwich among the top teams in Europe this season.
If the EL is such a prestigious competition why was there a bonus of qualifying for the CL included for the winner?
You never answered why big clubs prefer to play in the CL rather than the EL even though it's much easier to win it (EL) and why do all the top players constantly talk about wanting to play in the CL rather than the EL even though they knew the EL is much easier to win?
 
Murphy said:
He’s just said S3 is better than 2. The guy loves the taste of his own spunk. He’s serious.

It doesn’t mean we will, but the only way you can beat winning a Europa League is a league or champions league title. I’m not that naive to think it’ll happen of course, but if he’s doubling down on things, a league or FA Cup won't do.

Unless he walks, he’s staying. Let’s see what happens in the Super Cup.
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What do you expect him to say?1?
Alright guys, I'm off....because that's as good as it's going to get!!! :ange-bored2:


He might not be to everyones tastes, but in his speeches, he speaks like a true leader.
 
Murphy said:
He’s just said S3 is better than 2. The guy loves the taste of his own spunk. He’s serious.

It doesn’t mean we will, but the only way you can beat winning a Europa League is a league or champions league title. I’m not that naive to think it’ll happen of course, but if he’s doubling down on things, a league or FA Cup won't do.

Unless he walks, he’s staying. Let’s see what happens in the Super Cup.
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An FA Cup isn't as good as a Europa League, but if you offered me an FA Cup and 10th for next season, I'd take that offer instantly. I never realised how starved I was for trophies until this week.
Would that save Ange? Absolutely not though. He's doubled down on something that is almost impossible (winning either the PL or the UCL)
 
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