So a top 5 finish and no trophies is acceptable to you?
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So what are your expectations in his third season? It seems most would be happy with a top 5 finish?
He’s just said S3 is better than 2. The guy loves the taste of his own spunk. He’s serious.
It doesn’t mean we will, but the only way you can beat winning a Europa League is a league or champions league title. I’m not that naive to think it’ll happen of course, but if he’s doubling down on things, a league or FA Cup won't do.
Unless he walks, he’s staying. Let’s see what happens in the Super Cup.
Right, so what is your pass mark?
Every team at some point needs luck, on Wednesday we got some in respect we were playing a dogshit Utd team any other half decent team from any other country we’d have been in trouble but hey ho that’s how it goes…….Pochettino had luck in buckets on that run to the CL final we didn’t get there because we were good we got lucky……
European position finish (7+) AND a cup of some kind personally. He’s set the stall out and silverware will be expected.
The league form will ultimately dictate his tenure - if we are floundering before Christmas and struggling in the CL, LC, he will be in big trouble.
It's you who comes up with drivel rather than logical arguments.
And unlike I and don't see things just from within the Spurs bubble but I see things as they are in this objective football world. And no, I am not desperate to paint Woolwich as a among the better teams in Europe but fact is that they are considered to be among the top teams this season from their results ((which doesn't mean they are better than the "real big" teams).
Ending 2nd in the EPL and knocking out the favorites to win the CL this season, Real M., and beating them both home and away, does put Woolwich among the top teams in Europe this season.
If the EL is such a prestigious competition why was there a bonus of qualifying for the CL included for the winner?
You never answered why big clubs prefer to play in the CL rather than the EL even though it's much easier to win it (EL) and why do all the top players constantly talk about wanting to play in the CL rather than the EL even though they knew the EL is much easier to win?
What do you expect him to say?1?
Alright guys, I'm off....because that's as good as it's going to get!!!
He might not be to everyones tastes, but in his speeches, he speaks like a true leader.
An FA Cup isn't as good as a Europa League, but if you offered me an FA Cup and 10th for next season, I'd take that offer instantly. I never realised how starved I was for trophies until this week.
Would that save Ange? Absolutely not though. He's doubled down on something that is almost impossible (winning either the PL or the UCL)
Realistically, we should aim for top 6 and one of the domestic cups. It's a less romantic vision, but we now need to balance a trophy with a better league performance.
If we got to the later stages of the Champions league too, frankly I'd be amazed, but I hope we can still show growth. It will still be great to build experience in our young team.
There's something about developing playing style too. Finding the balance between Angeball and Angewall...
In 5 years when both teams look back on 2024-25 who do you think will consider their season more successful?
Personally I’d take top 7 and a cup (league cup or fa cup) as progression and continuation but that’s not what the quaestion was. Ange’s words mean this is only bettered by two prizes, neither of which I think we can do.
I don't understand, why would I answer that specific question when I'm not even arguing that point? Are you actually reading my posts?
It's obvious CL is more prestigious than EL but WINNING a trophy is seen as a success and trumps all besides all that this isn't my point - you said that Woolwich were a European force, that's what I'm arguing against.
The stupid thing is that this debate kicked off when you said it was much more of an achievement getting to the CL final then it is winning the EL, then proceeded to tie yourself in knots claiming that Woolwich have achieved more than us this season which is downright bullshit and uber weird BTW for someone so desperate to paint such a narrative for us and our rivals, weird.
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I think that is a fair bar, challenging for a domestic cup and top 7 should be achievable if we make a couple of transfers and stay relatively healthy
I don’t disagree. The players clearly love him and will have more belief now.What do you expect him to say?1?
Alright guys, I'm off....because that's as good as it's going to get!!!
He might not be to everyones tastes, but in his speeches, he speaks like a true leader.
He believes in himself and that’s great. But the weight of his words mean that anything less than the CL or PL will be seen as him not backing it up.
Personally a top 7 league finish and one of the FA or League cups will be progress/success given the reality of the other, FWIW.
No I’m the same this squad badly needs an overhaul but it’s a big job, just say, now I’ve mentioned these two on the transfer thread we somehow land Eze & Mbeumo which the majority would be delighted with but for the good of the club and players themselves we shift Son, Davies, Forster, Richarlson & Reguilon
Okay Forster & Reguilon are not regular starters but they’re squad players we replace two and we’re 3 players down next season as much as I’m delighted we’re in the champions league, europe, league, league cup & F.A Cup + internationals that’s feckin brutal
I'm asking Ange haters the question, so there is an expectation set.That's probably too optimistic. Better aim for near Relegation and winning the champions League cup
For me top 7 and making a semi or final in a domestic cup should be enough to keep him around another season. It shows improvement in league whilst still being able to compete in cups. He will likely exceed this is we stay healthier than this year and make a few astute transfers.