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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
At this point if the man says that season 3 is better than season 2 after telling us we're gonna win a trophy then actually pulling it off then I think we're gonna have to listen to him :D
 
He was just talking about Breaking Bad Season 3, not sure where you are drawing conclusions from haha.

In seriousness though, would you sack him if he won champions league and we finished 10th?
Not drawing any conclusions mate, just noted what he said will place him under pressure with the press with that comment, but fair play to him he proved them wrong.
Chelsea finished outside the top four years ago and one a CL it happens, our league form has been the worst for many a year but I don’t think it will be bad next season.
Look let's just enjoy this moment and hope that they, have absorbed all that winning feeling and want more of it.
 
I've been Ange Out as much as anyone else the last six months or so and I'm certainly not convinced all the flaws we've seen this season will dissapear next season, especially considering we will have to combine Premier League and Champions League. I'm absolutely worried that the injuries will start occuring again in October/November. I'm also not convinced he will be able to get us playing in a sustainable and successful way during an entire season.

However, right now it kind of feels like we can't sack him. Whoever replaces him, especially if it's someone like Silva, Frank etc, will get questioned at the slightest bad result with "why did we sack the manager who brought us our first trophy in 17 years for this?!" or something along those lines.

Also, and probably most importantly, whatever I think of Ange, the players clearly adore him. It's highly likely that the squad would take it very badly if Ange was sacked now.
 
So I'm not convinced on Ange's abilities as a head coach, but he's proved himself to be one hell of a leader.
A comparison with Conte is interesting at this stage. No one would question Conte's tactical credentials but a manager like him who was more focused on his own ego than understanding what the club needed and delivering it - always going to fail. Ange recognised the big psychological changes needed for a traumatised club like us to win something again and delivered an effective plan. He's had the balls to show the strong leadership required and the emotional intelligence to know exactly what buttons to press with his team and how to sell a vision. And he has a winners mentality.
I don't think he's currently the full package as a great manager, but in the Europa campaign he's finally shown some movement in one of my biggest criticisms of him, his inflexibility.
He's absolutely earned the right to stay but I think having a coaching team that challenges him sometimes and compensates for his weaker areas needs to be addressed as a priority. However, managers like him with the ability to communicate a vision are a rare breed and I don't see another one waiting in the wings.
I think that’s exactly how I feel post final now.

Bolster the coaching team behind him with some elite level coaches and let Ange do what he clearly does best in motivation and togetherness.

Frank, Silva etc, don’t look that appealing now.
 
I'm resigned to the fact that Ange is going to be here for another season, he's earned it with the cup win as far as I'm concerned but if I had my way I'd want us to part ways...regardless of this we could be setting ourselves up for another year with Ange then if he flops there's always the possibility of Poch in 2026...
Poch, Poch, Poch…… why? The guy that baring the CL had no real interest in cups and even at that right before the CL he says he is considering his position. Bottled an actual total race, and league cup quarter finals and finals domestically? I’d take this one season of winning an actual tangible trophy, over going back to a oh we have top 4-5.

I liked the guy but he is not the answer, supports always want the fancy man, when acrually he made hard work of PSG and ended up as a national coach for Murica?
 
Poch, Poch, Poch…… why? The guy that baring the CL had no real interest in cups and even at that right before the CL he says he is considering his position. Bottled an actual total race, and league cup quarter finals and finals domestically? I’d take this one season of winning an actual tangible trophy, over going back to a oh we have top 4-5.

I liked the guy but he is not the answer, supports always want the fancy man, when acrually he made hard work of PSG and ended up as a national coach for Murica?

So now you've solely focused on the negatives what were his positives?
 
Ange has that steel and bullish mentality to win trophies. Not sure though hes expansive or creative enough tactically with the demands of premier league or dealing with injuries. Quite a tricky decision by board to make. United had same problem with Ten Haag.
Ten Haag is a fair comparison, look how shit they are since he left, I’m sure there are a lot of United fans who actually regret him leaving .
 
So now you've solely focused on the negatives what were his positives?
Winning wise not much… he had a good personalty pundits liked him? I didn’t dislike him in anyway personality wise, I just don’t see what tangible things he accomplished with what on the most part was a very good squad of players including probably one of Englands best players in history, one of the most creative players in Eriksen at the time, arguably the best CB pairing at the time. I don’t see anything in what he has done since he left us that would make us take him back other than sentiment.
 
Ange is a great motivator, the players love him, and he's instilled a winning mentality into them. The problem is the fact that he's not good tactically. With tonight, he's talked his way back to the fans, and has made ENIC's decision 10x harder.
I’m not so sure , the reason we beat United is because of Ange tactics , granted his hand was kind of forced with The injuries but he changed the way we play , any way in still
Enjoying the win , whatever happens next season will happen and there is nothing us as fans can do about it , but what we can do is smile and enjoy Wednesday!
Good times in football as spurs fans are few and far between
 
I’m not so sure , the reason we beat United is because of Ange tactics , granted his hand was kind of forced with The injuries but he changed the way we play , any way in still
Enjoying the win , whatever happens next season will happen and there is nothing us as fans can do about it , but what we can do is smile and enjoy Wednesday!
Good times in football as spurs fans are few and far between
Absolutely!

We’re lucky others have to make the difficult decision. Let’s just hope they get it right!

I’m off to get some sun cream as I’m in danger of getting burnt from basking in all this glory! 😎😂

COYS!
 
Nothing lucky about that though is there, you can only play who's in front of you and Utd deserved to get to the final. We were arguably the favourites for a reason.

It's actually the opposite, we lost 3 key players and 3 creators, nothing lucky about that.
The thing is the people who are saying we had the easy run were the same people writing us off against Frankfurt , away to Bodo and again in the final against united :angesmile2:
 
No I’m the same this squad badly needs an overhaul but it’s a big job, just say, now I’ve mentioned these two on the transfer thread we somehow land Eze & Mbeumo which the majority would be delighted with but for the good of the club and players themselves we shift Son, Davies, Forster, Richarlson & Reguilon
Okay Forster & Reguilon are not regular starters but they’re squad players we replace two and we’re 3 players down next season as much as I’m delighted we’re in the champions league, europe, league, league cup & F.A Cup + internationals that’s feckin brutal

I honestly think, 4 legit starting quality players takes us to levels I don’t want to say because it’s not the time to start upsetting the melts yet.

RW: Mbuemo, Cherki
AM: Eze, Cherki, Paz,
6/8: Cardoso, Palinha
LCB/LB: Hincapie

None of those are impossible to do.

Then you need to make decisions on who you replace in the squad if they leave like Richy, Son, Biss/Bent. Romero has to stay
 
Everyone is buzzing at the moment, I still don't think levy changes his spot's regarding recruitment.
Still think, signings will be low level youngsters with potential on lower wages, we do need 4/5 experienced players in but can't see it happening.
 
I have been thinking about it this morning and I think we just need to keep him just to see what happens at the start of next season now. I am far from convinced he is any good but maybe bringing some better coaches to see if that helps. Going by last night Levy will be making a mistake sacking him with the fans if the next manager tanks.
 
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I don't think a copy and paste of the first season is good enough. There needs to be something to show that we've stepped up a gear - I want to see a real, sustained run at the top of the league. We might not quite have what it takes to be league champions at this point but we need to be in the final shake up. He basically needs to emulate golden era Poch.

To fulfill his promise about the third season, I think we need to be looking at 3rd or higher. I would accept 5th and competitive performance in the cup competitions but 5th and crapping out in the cups - not good enough. Ange has promised progress and that's what he needs to deliver.

Agree.

Ange and the club need to approach the recruitment this summer and the preseason training like we are prepping the squad for a push at the title race. We are nowhere near it but that’s got to be the aim.
 
I'm sure most have seen this but in 89/90 Utd finished 14th. They did win the FA Cup though and - even though he was one game from the sack - it bought Ferguson some time.Rest is history.

Let's not forget what this trophy has done for us (and could do for us) and also remember where we were when he took over.

The players obviously love him and splitting this up now would be one of the worst decisions ever.
 
I honestly think, 4 legit starting quality players takes us to levels I don’t want to say because it’s not the time to start upsetting the melts yet.

RW: Mbuemo, Cherki
AM: Eze, Cherki, Paz,
6/8: Cardoso, Palinha
LCB/LB: Hincapie

None of those are impossible to do.

Then you need to make decisions on who you replace in the squad if they leave like Richy, Son, Biss/Bent. Romero has to stay
Before we sign any players we need to find out why we are getting so many injuries , look at Palace for example - they played full strength all the way through to the FA cup final - I know injuries are part of the game but we can’t have another season like this where players are dropping like flies.
If we can add the players like you say and have 70% of them fit all season then I think we could do something very special
 
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