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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
TonySoprano said:
Did you just ignore the 2 years of abysmal league form or pretend it didn’t happen?
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Ok, this is a great point, and is the basis of many posts in this thread. If I may, it seems there are 3 points of discontent in this thread towards the manager.

The first, Ange isn't good enough to manage in the premier league
The second, Ange is bound to one tactic which has been found out
The third, Ange injured all our players

Did I miss anything?

I'm open to debate this if anyone is interested. I also stick to my point; he should most definitely stay.
 
TonySoprano said:
No, he was fucked, the players basically rebelled against him. Banning ketchup and making them eat plain pasta. He wouldn’t play Ledley in the league. Ramos was never going to make it here or in English football.

We gave him a few months at the start of the season but it was clearly a disaster and he needed to go.
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As evidenced by what Redknapp did with basically the same group of players in the 8 games after he left. "new manager bounce" aside, which IMO only works when the previous squad have stopped playing for the coach (as opposed to a squad ability concern)
 
Nuts said:
Anybody else wished the bottom of the trophy looked a bit more dazzling and less like a crack den pancake?
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1) I think UEFA have already tried to fix this. There is usually a Europa League trophy symbol to cover it up but it just somehow fell off before Son got given the trophy. You can see it in many other pictures after the on-pitch celebrations. A similar thing has been done with the Champions League trophy.

2) What's wrong with crack den pancakes? :nawty:
 
The rationale behind the decision or non decision .
Sack Ange with no replacement lined up : risk looking a laughing stock and end up with 5th choice ( like we did with Ange )
We are therefore spending our time sounding out managers. Our top three chpices might not be keen.

Plan b : Give Ange another season : Poch and Nagelsmann will be available
Plan C : Have an emergency temp or short contract manager lined up - should we have a terrible start.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Ooh, i dont know about that, chap. Our form in the league in the 2nd half of his first season WITH those two best players was atrocious.
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18 games from 1st Jan 2008 until the end of that season: P18 W5 D7 L6. That's 22 points out of 54, or 1.2 PPG.

So losing Berba/Keane only made a crap manager a bit more crap over quite a large set of data.

Imagine us just having 1 PPG over an entire season and people still trying to make the case that it's some kind of blip
 
daveyboy88 said:
the fact united are trying to sign two players that would upgrade our first 11 nicely, while we do fuck all, is a disgrace.
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Man Utd will not be signing a lot of players in the summer. Cunha will sign but I don’t think Delap will. The will still be terrible next season. If they lose Bruno they are completely fucked. He’s their only top player.

We are not doing fuck all mate. We don’t let everyone know our business to be fair to the club.
 
nicoclaesen said:
Man Utd will not be signing a lot of players in the summer. Cunha will sign but I don’t think Delap will. The will still be terrible next season. If they lose Bruno they are completely fucked. He’s their only top player.

We are not doing fuck all mate. We don’t let everyone know our business to be fair to the club.
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yea bruno will be a dent, but cunha and mbuebo will be very strong signings for them. its good intent in their position.

if they keep bruno and add them two, they have gone past us by a distance.
 
CJJ said:
As evidenced by what Redknapp did with basically the same group of players in the 8 games after he left. "new manager bounce" aside, which IMO only works when the previous squad have stopped playing for the coach (as opposed to a squad ability concern)
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History did not really vindicate Ramos.

A long managerial career with a lot of different stops and really only a golden couple of seasons with Sevilla (who won five more UEFA Cups after him) were anything special.
 
Chatting to neutral fans at work today, the general consensus is that it would be crazy to sack the manager who finally delivered a trophy and European football next season, I'm of the same thinking however the league form does worry me so I can see the other side other side of the argument, the thing that worries me more though is if We sack Ange now, firstly I have no faith in Levy getting the next appointment right and if your the new guy in the job then straight away your fucking off the cups to concentrate on top 4/5.
Its a really tough decision to make for Levy and I think as a fan base we are split, so whatever he chooses will piss people of!
 
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AberdeenYid said:
Everyone asking for clarity from the club may be in for a long wait. It’s very possible the decision has been made and they won’t announce it.

Do we usually announce that a manager will be in charge again next season?

Maybe the decision has been made to keep him. If that’s the case, you’ll hear nothing official from the club.
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Usually the club doesn't put up relegation form in the league from start to finish. I think the club really does need to put out a statement either way in this specific instance because it will be massively detrimental to our upcoming campaign for there to be rumours over whether we are still looking for a new manager or not. With every fibre of my being I want the man out of the club but I would still massively rather we get a statement before the start of June that definitively states whether he will remain in charge next season or not, it will allow the fans to temper their expectations, whether we're going to take the season seriously or just wait for the news he's been sacked in Oct/Nov to start taking us seriously again.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Usually the club doesn't put up relegation form in the league from start to finish. I think the club really does need to put out a statement either way in this specific instance because it will be massively detrimental to our upcoming campaign for there to be rumours over whether we are still looking for a new manager or not. With every fibre of my being I want the man out of the club but I would still massively rather we get a statement before the start of June that definitively states whether he will remain in charge next season or not, it will allow the fans to temper their expectations, whether we're going to take the season seriously or just wait for the news he's been sacked in Oct/Nov to start taking us seriously again.
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They won't and won't need to, if he carries on it's business as usual.
 
FightingIllini said:
History did not really vindicate Ramos.

A long managerial career with a lot of different stops and really only a golden couple of seasons with Sevilla (who won five more UEFA Cups after him) were anything special.
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Very few managers have left us for greater things, which might mean we get washed/crap managers, or that they never recover from us :levyeyes:


How many can we name? I'm totally, 110% NOT accepting Poch winning the John Deere Ligue 1 or the Fertilizer Cup in france as some evidence of success, but I'm looking at Redknapp, AVB, Jose.
I mean you could argue Conte has carried on as he was, but he does tend to have a rule that he'll only manage a club that will buy the league
 
Shadydan said:
They won't and won't need to, if he carries on it's business as usual.
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Very naive take IMO, Utd got ahead of the rumours pretty early on with ETH by giving him a new contract, can't see us doing the same with Ange as he's still got 2 left to run and v unlikely to stay on past the next season whether he's sacked now or in October, but there will be a cacophony of noise in the media until it's definitively put to rest, not a lot else for them to focus in on this summer as no international comps and other clubs are fairly settled managerially.
 
Mostly wrong said:
Very naive take IMO, Utd got ahead of the rumours pretty early on with ETH by giving him a new contract, can't see us doing the same with Ange as he's still got 2 left to run and v unlikely to stay on past the next season whether he's sacked now or in October, but there will be a cacophony of noise in the media until it's definitively put to rest, not a lot else for them to focus in on this summer as no international comps and other clubs are fairly settled managerially.
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Strange point to make unless you suggest we give Ange a new contract as a way to announce he's staying.

Furthermore I've never seen a club confirm that a manager is staying simply by putting out a statement saying he's staying, that's what the media are there for.
 
Shadydan said:
Strange point to make unless you suggest we give Ange a new contract as a way to announce he's staying.

Furthermore I've never seen a club confirm that a manager is staying simply by putting out a statement saying he's staying, that's what the media are there for.
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Lol Ange himself has literally been priming Levy/Enic to make a statement with his "season 3" and "I'm not the man to ask about my future" bollocks. No, I don't think we should give him a new contract, I think we should announce his sacking, preferably by the end of this week. If we're not going to though something needs to be communicated unless we want to go the whole way through June reading ITK conjecture and puff pieces from the media on slow news days about potential replacements.
 
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