Last time you said that you would throw in a bag of chips and some scraps!
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Because he blew a 2-0 lead in one half against a Croatian side whose manager was in prison. Because he shipped five goals to fucking Everton. Because Literally Timo Werner outscored his side over two legs.Why does Jose always get lumped in with this when his chance to win one was taken away from him.
Hopefully he is not coming backAnyone know where he's gone on his holiday and when he's due back?
Lost on pens to Norwich.Because he blew a 2-0 lead in one half against a Croatian side whose manager was in prison. Because he shipped five goals to fucking Everton. Because Literally Timo Werner outscored his side over two legs.
Nobody opposed his Cup Final week sacking more than me, but he had his chances, it was a misbegotten appointment.
(I see on Wikipedia we lost at home to Norwich in the FA Cup, I don't even remember that game tbh. I bet it was shit)
He did (weirdly enough) have his own bonkers "Paulinho/Barcelona" moment by managing to get the Real Madrid job (albeit not for long) after he left us. The 2008 League Cup is still the last trophy he won as a manager, despite managing four clubs after us.
What I would say is that without Levy hiring him, we'd have been potless for 26 years rather than 17
Because he blew a 2-0 lead in one half against a Croatian side whose manager was in prison. Because he shipped five goals to fucking Everton. Because Literally Timo Werner outscored his side over two legs.
Nobody opposed his Cup Final week sacking more than me, but he had his chances, it was a misbegotten appointment.
(I see on Wikipedia we lost at home to Norwich in the FA Cup, I don't even remember that game tbh. I bet it was shit)
Blew a 2 goal lead who's manager was in prison. You'll never sing that.Because he blew a 2-0 lead in one half against a Croatian side whose manager was in prison. Because he shipped five goals to fucking Everton. Because Literally Timo Werner outscored his side over two legs.
Nobody opposed his Cup Final week sacking more than me, but he had his chances, it was a misbegotten appointment.
(I see on Wikipedia we lost at home to Norwich in the FA Cup, I don't even remember that game tbh. I bet it was shit)
I recall at the time we appointed him, that people suggested Ramos wasn't the reason Seville won 5 cups under him, it was the team behind him at Seville, IE DoF, scouts etc.
That was the model Levy desperately seemed to want anyway, a coach that could be changed every 2-3 years but a backroom team that stayed and kept the consistency going.
He has pretty much said this publicly as well. Although I can't find anything to prove it, he's definitely said there is a trend abroad whereby manages come and go within 2 years but staff remain the same. And teams succeed that way.
Maybe in a Sunday league match.Blew a 2 goal lead who's manager was in prison. You'll never sing that.![]()
José could perfectly well have won that final the way we just won one. Resolute defending, setting up to be hard to beat, and hoping one counterattack or one critical bounce goes your way.Whilst that is all true, Mourninho is a coach for big games and we should have waited until after that final.
If only to end this exact debate before it ever happened.
And also, had we left him in place and we still lost, Levy wouldn't have been afraid to sack Ange months ago.
Yeah he's been on about it since 2003. We were also one of the first clubs to bring in a sporting director, in the european model.
People think Levy is a control freak but by evidence he's been trying to hand off the footballing side the whole time - it just doesn't seem like we've manage to hire anyone useful at it beyond Collini, and anyone decent hasn't really had any patience or reality with how the club has had to organically manage its own funding, rather than the Chelsea model of financial absurdity that crept it. Then, we had both Redknapp and Poch (arguably our two most successful PL managers in terms of league performance and finishes) outright throw a complete wobbly about working under a sporting director.
We could probably do much much worse than getting a Monchi type of guy in to build a squad and culture and just having a half decent head coach to pick the team and tactics and knows their limits.
It goes back to Lyon's setup in the late 90's under Jean-Michel Aulas, that was Levy's role model. Tried and failed to build that sort of structure at Spurs several times.I recall at the time we appointed him, that people suggested Ramos wasn't the reason Seville won 5 cups under him, it was the team behind him at Seville, IE DoF, scouts etc.
That was the model Levy desperately seemed to want anyway, a coach that could be changed every 2-3 years but a backroom team that stayed and kept the consistency going.
He has pretty much said this publicly as well. Although I can't find anything to prove it, he's definitely said there is a trend abroad whereby manages come and go within 2 years but staff remain the same. And teams succeed that way.
I couldn't agree more than Mourinho should have gotten the chance to shithouse his way through that final, sacking him in that moment was a disgraceful and inexplicable surrender.Whilst that is all true, Mourninho is a coach for big games and we should have waited until after that final.
If only to end this exact debate before it ever happened.
And also, had we left him in place and we still lost, Levy wouldn't have been afraid to sack Ange months ago.
I couldn't agree more than Mourinho should have gotten the chance to shithouse his way through that final, sacking him in that moment was a disgraceful and inexplicable surrender.
Not sure what any of it has to do with Ange though.
I think the backlash for sacking Mourinho before a cup final has effectively kept Ange in a job for months.
Whilst we have been in cups, Ange has been safe from the sack almost no questions asked. It's madness.
And now we won a cup, he may have guaranteed he starts next season too due to the simps all heel turning back into "ange in" sheep.
This was 100% what Levy intended with Paratici. And by all accounts will do again.We could probably do much much worse than getting a Monchi type of guy in to build a squad and culture and just having a half decent head coach to pick the team and tactics and knows their limits.