Is this ITK that they’re sacking Ange?!
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I guess that depends on your personal definition of title race. For instance Ange’s first season plenty on here said we were in a title race. Were you in that crowd?
We finished 22 points off the champions that season……….
For me the title race is the last 8 games.
Until then you’re jostling for position.
And even then after 30 games you are second or third and 9 points off the leaders you’re more in a chase than a race. Within 3 points you’re in a race.
And I’d happily wager Ange won’t even be our manager by the time we get to the 30 game mark.
So put in writing your definition of title race contenders and then let’s set the terms of our wager young Harry.
Yes, I agree that injuries were also a big factor but some of those injuries were incurred during our training sessions, and it kept on incurring until towards the end of this last season.
I just wonder why training methods couldn’t have changed to avoid / reduce the number of injuries incurred during training. I believe it’s because of his stubbornness and inflexibility. I also think that he isn’t a great coach at this level.
Starting XI: Kinsky, Gray, Danso, Davies, Spence, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr, Kulusevski, Richarlison, Son (c).
Same midfield as started final. Tel was on the bench as was Porro. Only 2 changes from previous game v Brentford where we won. Everyone was banging on about kulu at the time being great. Richi the saviour for our Europa league final games. Da so has done well since joining. So enough decent players there to at least keep it tight and push them back. We were timid and pathetic. Gawd knows he sent them out but I think this was long before he abandoned his principles completely.
Werner was probably one of , if not, the biggest culprit. That’s why I couldn’t understand why we extended his loan.
Thnk he played RB from the start of the season in Europa as Ange thought he didn’t need Spence.
Most ex players and pros are about as sharp as Wayne Rooney
This is his squad he has spent nearly £400M. Got rid of players like PEH who he didn’t want, discarded Spence and sent on loan all our academy players except Moore. Who he has treated badly. All the while bringing in other youngsters same age as our own and giving them minutes. If the squad that got 5th was better than the one now how comes people say he came into a shit show in 23.
I really hope you're right
He didn’t want eze last summer he preferred players like Solanke and oddbert.
100% Ange cannot coach a team to play good solid attacking football. It’s just throw your cards in the air and see what happens. How comes a 32 yr old rookie can get his Brighton team to play football we could only dream about. Whilst spending far less on players most of which we would shit on. His had one season only. I’d like our team to play like Brighton with our better players. Not too much to ask!
Not sure what you mean by just posting 17th? Like it's definitive evidence of being fraudulant?
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'a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.'
Did he categorically state that he has the skill set to never finish as low as 17th?
The only thing he ever claimed was that he ALWAYS wins a trophy in his 2nd season.....so unless you have evidence that during his interview with Levy he stated that he will never finish 17th, I think fraud is the wrong term.
Unsuitable, unacceptable, tactically naive are all terms I'd use to describe Ange's management of the club.....but he's never been fraudulant.
It's not fraudulant though is it.....he did exactly what he said he'd do....in fact it's the complete opposite of fraudulant!
I don't think Ange is fraudulent. I just don't think he's good enough at this level. He may have won a cup but, anyone one on any given day can do that. He lucked out. 22 defeats cannot be ignored
That’s just factually incorrect. Go watch Australia at the 2014 World Cup!
I completely agree with you there. I'm not excited about next season. If we'd finished 5th again, and won the cup, and invested, I think there would be real excitement about what we could do next season.
However I just can't see it under Ange.
How do you know this?
I don't understand why it would take 10 matches to be found out. Are PL managers completely idiots?
I don't buy this narrative. Better look for other reasons.
2014?
Played 3 lost 3 goal difference of -9. Obviously out in the groups.