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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I can see the rationale behind sacking Ange. The league form was sackable and it was his decision to have a younger recruitment profile. Or at least he’s claimed that responsibility. He also struggled massively with 2 competitions last year and we lost every game after the EL. Being in the CL should make that harder.

But people massively underestimate the value of this squad being winners now and their self belief in what they can achieve with this manager needs to be given a chance to get some completion. Either it will fail and he’s gone by December and the whole thing has no what ifs… or it absolutely kicks on much better than anyone could have expected.

We’ve started both Ange seasons with strong performance levels, with the right recruitment this summer, there’s a non-zero chance that we are able to maintain those levels this time.
There's enough talent there that Spurs could finish 8th next season if they put a hat rack in the manager's box. The question is, are they ready to take a step forward next season beyond just recovering from their poor performance in this one. The players aren't going to always have Bodo Glimpt and Man United to make them look good.
 
There's enough talent there that Spurs could finish 8th next season if they put a hat rack in the manager's box. The question is, are they ready to take a step forward next season beyond just recovering from their poor performance in this one. The players aren't going to always have Bodo Glimpt and Man United to make them look good.

My opinion is that they are ready.

When they come back for pre season and Ange tells them to work harder than ever and be more disciplined than ever to stay fit because it will pay off, they have the muscle memory and irrational belief from winning something to actually do it. For 40 odd years it's been empty words when every manager said "this year is the one we do something special". Now those words actually mean something to these players. Whether they should logically or not.
 
There's enough talent there that Spurs could finish 8th next season if they put a hat rack in the manager's box. The question is, are they ready to take a step forward next season beyond just recovering from their poor performance in this one. The players aren't going to always have Bodo Glimpt and Man United to make them look good.

This squad is still severely lacking technical and creative players. There’s literally 2 players in the squad we can relay upon.
 
Looking at our managers history, of the last seventeen appointed under Levy, from unknowns to the best of the best none have covered the club in glory.

The EL win under Ange has covered over the worse top flight season in ninety years, and if we looked at CV's only Conte would be back on Monday. Without Kulu, Madders, and Bergvall we still won the final summing up the quality teams we played in the competition. We scoff at the Conference League but the EL is little stronger.

We won well done, now like United or City or Scouse would have done, we move on.

Iraola for me, Glasner shouldn't be ruled out, but if i an paying 2,300 quid next season for a season ticket then I don't expect to witness half of those games ending in defeat.

Ange has to win twelve more games (on average) to make a top four place next season. He has little ability to do that.

Levy needs to pull the trigger next week.
The EL is little stronger? FC Noah!! We beat teams who are in the champ lge this season. Easily the best team Chelsea played was Betis, currently 6th best in Spain . Only them and Fiorentina were getting to Europa standard. That competition wasn’t meant for strong prem lge teams. Forest could easily win it next season.
Looking at what we had to play I would think the prem lge teams will target the Europa as a means to getting in the champ lge.
 
Tell you what can I have my travel and admission money refunded along with the other 40k plus who were not told we'd written off the entire campaign to be ready for the might of Bodo fucking Gimp. The lowering of standards is shocking.
You can always ask.... :levyhands:

We have to fire the coach just to remove the credulous from all conversations. It's staggering the shit he has sane people spouting.
I'll take that as a compliment!!🤪

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely see how BAD the League season was... BUT had we taken the league more seriously, just to finish in a 'more respectable' top 6 finish, at THE EXPENSE of the Europa League (yes, why can't we have both, but just imagine we can't...) then no one is trying to pretend that would've constituted a better season, surely?
 
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Why not just drop him off in Korea and say bye bye? He'll get a job out there, easy.

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I think the cold blooded but right decision would be to make the change now..

But, if it's going to be this manager next season.. then I'll say screw it and I will delude myself about next season as much as anybody. And we can get back to enjoying the trophy fully again without these question marks clouding everything...

It's just the lack of confirmation either way that gets aggravating. Not because I need to know everything, but because I don't trust for one second that they are acting and thinking as urgently as they need to.. I really feel like we could go into mid June, with no final decision either way, while others plan for their seasons.
 
I think the cold blooded but right decision would be to make the change now..

But, if it's going to be this manager next season.. then I'll say screw it and I will delude myself about next season as much as anybody. And we can get back to enjoying the trophy fully again without these question marks clouding everything...

It's just the lack of confirmation either way that gets aggravating. Not because I need to know everything, but because I don't trust for one second that they are acting and thinking as urgently as they need to.. I really feel like we could go into mid June, with no final decision either way, while others plan for their seasons.
But why would there need to be an announcement that Ange is staying? He's still contracted to the club and it's only normal no news means no changes. They could have already be making plans of new players incoming WITH the intention Ange is going to start the season. That's the default in anyways.
 
Absolutely. We badly need players who can pass the ball in MF

It’s why when I say the front line needs upgrading but people responded with well we score a lot it entirely misses the point.

We need a winger who can hold the ball under pressure and link well, think Eden Hazard as the best version of this. Odobert is the closest to this but he is till a bit green and that is before we come to lack of Maddison cover and a top draw DM.
 
But why would there need to be an announcement that Ange is staying? He's still contracted to the club and it's only normal no news means no changes. They could have already be making plans of new players incoming WITH the intention Ange is going to start the season. That's the default in anyways.
By announcement, I meant a brief to the press rather than a club statement. Because it's not just business as normal, with no news necessary, when he was out the door before that 90 minutes of football.

And yes... They COULD have been making proactive plans with this manager, meaning time isn't being wasted.. And I hope you're right. But when in the last 25 years, has trusting in Tottenham, to be proactive, rather than reactive, in regards to planning for the season ahead, ever been the safe position to take?
 
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