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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
It’s who we were mate.
Almost went down.
Won a trophy.
All in the past now and history will always show us as having won yet another European trophy more than the Woolwich nomads.
Thats the abiding legacy of Ange for me.
As for him at Forest? Again, it’s who we were mate.
 
Aussies Dream said:
Forests next 5:

Burnley (A)

Betis (A)

Sunderland (H)

Midtjylland (H)

Newcastle (A)
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The Newcastle one there is interesting. Howe is a bit like Frank in that he has no particular system and just sets up to beat an opponent.
In the last few games we played against Newcastle they gave us a lot of the ball and just held us at arms length.
I suspect they'll do that again with Forest, but it'll be the reaction of the Forest fans that interests me. A lot (too many) of our fans yapped on about how we were "unlucky" and how we "outplayed" them in the games we lost.
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harry7 said:
Seems very odd the disrespect that fans show. You would think that a guy who has worked his way up from tiny local teams in Aus....all the way to winning international trophies and European championships would be a fairytail story that would be celebrated. Aside from Celtic, he never once went into a team that was performing well. He took underachievers and turned them into winners in a very short time.

If anyone has ever seen the Australian team play football - you'd know what a miracle he performed with them :)

He helped Spurs turn a corner and has set them up for a new era.

I find it odd that people are willing him to fail. Good luck to him at Forest.
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incorrect.. the stand-out qualifications ("miracles") for australia were for the 1974 & 2006 WC's.. prior to lobbying to go through Asia instead of playing 5th placed South Americans (came close against Argentina with Diego Maradona in 1993 years ahead of you know who.. Australia had previously been knocked out by New Zealand, Isreal, Scotland in different routes when part of Oceania
.. way i see it is he quit to pursue other more lucrative opportunites but gave some lame ramble about football in Australia not lining up with the visionaries view .. yes very good.

the rest appears to be chip on the shoulder stuff but seems to pay

maybe shouldn't have talked down to people and perhaps been more like Frank who feels privileged to be here .. just an opinion like
 
White Van Jan said:
delusional again from you

If you think there was anything in that performance that night that showed a blueprint of how we could win matches the following season then you know even less about the game than I have credited you for.

Oooh! we can scrape past the most dysfunctional United team for 50 years who finished 15th in the PL. Scoring from our one chance, the scrappiest goal you'll ever see!

Very similar to Chavs flukey CL win v Bayern when against his better judgement Abramovich was persuaded to keep RDM. Only to have to fire him a few weeks later.

I'll give you another one - they came within a missed pen of winning another one under Avram Grant. I suppose you'd have kept him on too? Got fired from Spam later, while they still had a proper ground too.
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How did you read his post and get that out of it?

We did need that Europa win badly. Last season would have been an utter failure without it. Instead, the season became a turd with a cherry on top.
 
dudu said:
You remember it because we were seconds away from going out.

You remember it because of the adrenaline we all felt from clutching victory from the jaws of defeat - it had nothing to do with it being a more prestigious moment for the club.

You know we were 3-0 down in that tie at one point, right???

You also remember us not turning up at all at the final - the single biggest night in the clubs modern history after absolutely capitulating in the league at the end of that season with form as bad as Ange's? In our last 12, we W3 D3 and L7
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You are wrong here for me.

I remember Ajax as a better moment because we had a better team and it was a better competition that is much closer to the pinnacle of the sport than a Europa league title is. It was also better football than that shit final.

Don’t care if we finished 3, 3 and 7, that team was far better than last years shitshow.
 
Who said:
incorrect.. the stand-out qualifications ("miracles") for australia were for the 1974 & 2006 WC's.. prior to lobbying to go through Asia instead of playing 5th placed South Americans (came close against Argentina with Diego Maradona in 1993 years ahead of you know who.. Australia had previously been knocked out by New Zealand, Isreal, Scotland in different routes when part of Oceania
.. way i see it is he quit to pursue other more lucrative opportunites but gave some lame ramble about football in Australia not lining up with the visionaries view .. yes very good.

the rest appears to be chip on the shoulder stuff but seems to pay

maybe shouldn't have talked down to people and perhaps been more like Frank who feels privileged to be here .. just an opinion like
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Hmmm so you do realise Ange took Australia to 2 World Cups, however the 2nd one he qualified for he quit because of our shit federation who is broke and gave zero support.
Interesting you have such an in depth understanding of Australian soccer (yes that’s what everyone here calls it ).
Imagine playing Cook Islands, Fiji, American Samoa etc then having to win a playoff against Argentina, Uruguay et al.
The reason Australia moved from Oceania to Asia was to actually have consistently harder football, so when it came to the crunch matches we were better prepared.
But hey, apparently anyone is an expert on Australian SOCCER. Particularly Who.
And for the record Ange always felt privileged to be Spurs manager.
Talking shite to align with your narrative?
 
bonaspur23 said:
You are wrong here for me.

I remember Ajax as a better moment because we had a better team and it was a better competition that is much closer to the pinnacle of the sport than a Europa league title is. It was also better football than that shit final.

Don’t care if we finished 3, 3 and 7, that team was far better than last years shitshow.
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Like I understand this from an emotional perspective, but....

Was winning a semi-final a greater achievement for the club than winning an actual trophy?

Imagine had arsneal got to the CL final last year and lost, trying to tell you that was a better achievement than winning the Europa..... you'd have none of it.
 
OziBeerMan said:
Hmmm so you do realise Ange took Australia to 2 World Cups, however the 2nd one he qualified for he quit because of our shit federation who is broke and gave zero support.
Interesting you have such an in depth understanding of Australian soccer (yes that’s what everyone here calls it ).
Imagine playing Cook Islands, Fiji, American Samoa etc then having to win a playoff against Argentina, Uruguay et al.
The reason Australia moved from Oceania to Asia was to actually have consistently harder football, so when it came to the crunch matches we were better prepared.
But hey, apparently anyone is an expert on Australian SOCCER. Particularly Who.
And for the record Ange always felt privileged to be Spurs manager.
Talking shite to align with your narrative?
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no it wasn't... it was so they wouldn't have to play south americans because the 5th placed south american team are still a stronger opposition. Australia beat Uruguay for 06 but not the campaign before... If you qualify for a WC the federation and people involved (the executives etc) get paid so I guess that's why they lobbied to go through the Asian qualifiers as beating Samoa,NZ etc but having to then play Chile, Argentina, Uruguay or someone else from there over two legs is probably harder?

the way he behaved I saw & heard for myself (on the telly) ... but you can believe and say whatever you like.
 
dudu said:
Like I understand this from an emotional perspective, but....

Was winning a semi-final a greater achievement for the club than winning an actual trophy?

Imagine had arsneal got to the CL final last year and lost, trying to tell you that was a better achievement than winning the Europa..... you'd have none of it.
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Not at all. Woolwich were far better than us last season. We won a trophy in a competition they were too good to qualify for.

So yes, I think reaching a CL final is a bigger achievement than winning a competition that excluded the top 36 teams in Europe.

I made the same point to someone else a few weeks ago, but if we had won the Conference League, would that also be bigger than reaching the UCL final?

If the answer is yes, I’d laugh and say you’re wrong. If the answer is no, it’s because it’s an inferior competition and not reflective of a good team. The Europa is the same but to a lesser extent as it’s a better competition than the Conference League but still significantly inferior to the Champions League.
 
At the time the euphoria of getting past Ajax I've never felt before or since as a spurs fan. Absolutely dead at half time and then with the last kick of the game getting through. I've got goosebumps now thinking about it. But a few years down the line, the trophy is the bigger moment overall imo. That's the real place in history.
 
Sir Alfred Conn said:
Arguing with fans at Bournemouth
Nearly fighting fans at Fulham
Genuinely taking the piss of fans at Chelsea
Not understanding why fans didn't want Woolwich to win the league

Thanks for Bilbao Ange, but you were never Tottenham
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💯

The bloke was and is totally about himself

I never thought for a moment he was part of spurs

i find him cringeworthy the way he ‘sort of mate’ blags his way through interviews

I unapologetically thank him for breaking our duck and winning that trophy….. however I don’t rate him but I don’t hate him

Glad we have a proper football manager in TF
 
Who said:
no it wasn't... it was so they wouldn't have to play south americans because the 5th placed south american team are still a stronger opposition. Australia beat Uruguay for 06 but not the campaign before... If you qualify for a WC the federation and people involved (the executives etc) get paid so I guess that's why they lobbied to go through the Asian qualifiers as beating Samoa,NZ etc but having to then play Chile, Argentina, Uruguay or someone else from there over two legs is probably harder?

the way he behaved I saw & heard for myself (on the telly) ... but you can believe and say whatever you like.
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As I said, glad you’re an expert.
You have no idea mate.
 
Sir Alfred Conn said:
Arguing with fans at Bournemouth
Nearly fighting fans at Fulham
Genuinely taking the piss of fans at Chelsea
Not understanding why fans didn't want Woolwich to win the league

Thanks for Bilbao Ange, but you were never Tottenham
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I don't know if it is too harsh... but completely fucking up the LC semi against Liverpool, going in 1-0 up and playing a tactic that was just dumb as fuck, against a counter attacking team....
 
bonaspur23 said:
Not at all. Woolwich were far better than us last season. We won a trophy in a competition they were too good to qualify for.

So yes, I think reaching a CL final is a bigger achievement than winning a competition that excluded the top 36 teams in Europe.

I made the same point to someone else a few weeks ago, but if we had won the Conference League, would that also be bigger than reaching the UCL final?

If the answer is yes, I’d laugh and say you’re wrong. If the answer is no, it’s because it’s an inferior competition and not reflective of a good team. The Europa is the same but to a lesser extent as it’s a better competition than the Conference League but still significantly inferior to the Champions League.
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I mean, context is everything, bro, and also, in this sport, so is winning.

When was the last trophy we won? Add in how many inferior teams we have lost to in cup competitions over the years since our last trophy? I think winning the Europa League is a far bigger when you look at the whole picture, and also just a more tangible achievement than getting to a CL final. It's in the history books. We didn't get anything for beating Ajax.

For you better team = better achievement but Poch failed at every attempt to win something with that far superior team.

Also, bringing up the conference league is a straw man - and I think you know it.

I'm never going to be convinced that getting to a final and losing it a better achievement for the club than winning one. I can kind of see where you are coming from, if we had won 10 trophies in the last 20 years and not crashed out of the Europa, and conference league plenty during that time to lesser competition. But we hadn't. We were perennial losers, unable to cross the finish line for too long.

That night meant more to me and countless Spurs fans than cowardly losing a CL final.
 
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