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Manager Antonio Conte

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By the way , he is no better manager than Jose Mourinho , ask any Inter or Chelsea fans they would tell you that , he never outdone
whatever Mourinho did at both club , he won 1 epl at Chelsea , Mou won 3 , he won serie A, Mou has treble

Mourinho got the the better of kane , son , even Ndombele. Which players conte got the better off so far ? Got us into a cup final and topped the table for brief period which i doubt conte will be capable of without wholesale change of this squad


No point in sacking Mourinho if you end up hiring someone who would turn toxic even faster if you don't give him the money.
Don't give me crap like he just won serie A so he is a manager in his prime not finished, i mean do you think Mourinho wouldn't win serie A if he was allowed to recruit 22 new players at Inter within 2 seasons ?
How on Earth does this post have two agrees? What utter nonsense.

All of your comparisons are using Jose in his prime vs. Conte now. Of course Jose in his prime and Conte now are comparable and maybe even Jose was better.

Jose now though is certainly nowhere close to Conte's level. Jose is washed and Conte is coming off an extremely successful season.
 
How on Earth does this post have two agrees? What utter nonsense.

All of your comparisons are using Jose in his prime vs. Conte now. Of course Jose in his prime and Conte now are comparable and maybe even Jose was better.

Jose now though is certainly nowhere close to Conte's level. Jose is washed and Conte is coming off an extremely successful season.

Yeah that post is actually full of shit and full of factual inadequacies.
 
conte needs to stay calm in this moment: nobody ask him to win something this year;
nobody can take off all the deadwoods in a row
at the moment the most important thing is to finish in the first 4, to have this summer a different appeal for good players. to arrive in the first 4 we have to fight against Woolwich and west ham.
it can be done, with some optimism, enthusiasm, a lot of work and trust in these players, that realistically will remain until the end of the season (because nobody want them)

if there is the possibility to swap 1-2 players in this transfer market ok, otherwise head down, work and shut up
There is absolutely no way this squad can achieve top 4. The only conceivable way that it is achievable is by bringing in some quality players. Look at Chelsea over the two legs that's champions league standard this squad is a million miles from that.
 
There is absolutely no way this squad can achieve top 4. The only conceivable way that it is achievable is by bringing in some quality players. Look at Chelsea over the two legs that's champions league standard this squad is a million miles from that.

Meh.

That Chav squad just WON the CL & is considered a title challeneger. We're battling with Arse, WH & Utd. for top 4; not Chelsea.
 
Meh.

That Chav squad just WON the CL & is considered a title challeneger. We're battling with Arse, WH & Utd. for top 4; not Chelsea.
No point in being in champions league to get pumped at the group stage and dumped out. I'm not asking to be as good but atleast compete. We was at no point in this whole tie anywhere near the same stratosphere as them. United west ham Woolwich and United all have better squads. We have a couple of better individuals. Also all you've mentioned were competing with have easily dispatched us so far this season.
 
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Can we all calm down now, myself included



Conte isn't walking into Real, PSG or City where he's expected to produce right now.

Conte is no fool. He had plenty of time to think and calculate who he's exactly getting into bed with.

Maybe things are worse than he expected, but there has to be some vision that Levy, Paratici, and Conte are aligned with.

He knows the January transfer window is difficult. Rarely are there impact players on the move. Maybe that's why Traore hasn't gone through yet. Is he really going to make that big of an impact? Save funds for summer spending.

Maybe Conte's plan is to get us through this season and it's in the summer where he can tear it down and build it up more to his liking. There's a shit ton of work to do.

I'm not saying shit doesn't suck now. The immediate future looks grim. But as long as Conte is still here, i'll have some hope.
 
No point in being in champions league to get pumped at the group stage and dumped out. I'm not asking to be as good but atleast compete. We was at no point in this whole tie anywhere near the same stratosphere as them. United west ham Woolwich and United all have better squads. We have a couple of better individuals. Also all you've mentioned were competing with have easily dispatched us so far this season.
the point is to have the appeal to get good players in the summer transfer window
with the perspective of conference league or europa league players like vlahovic or brozovic don't even consider the opportunity to join us.
that's reality

united have a better squad, no doubt. but Woolwich no, we can fight with them to reach the 4th place (I'm not saying that it will be easy. it will be very very difficult, but it is possible)
 
Conte isn't walking into Real, PSG or City where he's expected to produce right now.

Conte is no fool. He had plenty of time to think and calculate who he's exactly getting into bed with.

Maybe things are worse than he expected, but there has to be some vision that Levy, Paratici, and Conte are aligned with.

He knows the January transfer window is difficult. Rarely are there impact players on the move. Maybe that's why Traore hasn't gone through yet. Is he really going to make that big of an impact? Save funds for summer spending.

Maybe Conte's plan is to get us through this season and it's in the summer where he can tear it down and build it up more to his liking. There's a shit ton of work to do.

I'm not saying shit doesn't suck now. The immediate future looks grim. But as long as Conte is still here, i'll have some hope.
If he had more than an 18 month contract I'd agree. The fact is his contract only runs until the end of next season so realistically what he needs to do he needs to start this window. Big ask for him to do it all this summer. And remember there is a world Cup sandwiched in next season.
 
Having seen it to varying degrees from Mourinho, Nuno and now Conte I do think that managers are actually surprised at how bad the squad is when they arrive.

From the outside it's clear we have issues but until they see Matt Doherty up close they don't realise the extent.

In terms of technical ability across the squad we are a million miles away from the top table.

I think Conte has looked noticeably downbeat recently. I don't think he has ever worked with players with such a low fundamental level.

If true that he's basically been told you'll maybe get Adama this January if you're lucky, I can see why he would be downbeat.

I can also see a scenario where they have promised him the world in the summer to have a real go next season but as a winner he is simply depressed about having to see out the season with the current crop.
 
the point is to have the appeal to get good players in the summer transfer window
with the perspective of conference league or europa league players like vlahovic or brozovic don't even consider the opportunity to join us.
that's reality

united have a better squad, no doubt. but Woolwich no, we can fight with them to reach the 4th place (I'm not saying that it will be easy. it will be very very difficult, but it is possible)
Being in the champions league was supposed to help us sign good players before. We went 18 months without a signing and still didn't sign a single world class player in 4 years.
 
By the way , he is no better manager than Jose Mourinho , ask any Inter or Chelsea fans they would tell you that , he never outdone
whatever Mourinho did at both club , he won 1 epl at Chelsea , Mou won 3 , he won serie A, Mou has treble

Mourinho got the the better of kane , son , even Ndombele. Which players conte got the better off so far ? Got us into a cup final and topped the table for brief period which i doubt conte will be capable of without wholesale change of this squad


No point in sacking Mourinho if you end up hiring someone who would turn toxic even faster if you don't give him the money.
Don't give me crap like he just won serie A so he is a manager in his prime not finished, i mean do you think Mourinho wouldn't win serie A if he was allowed to recruit 22 new players at Inter within 2 seasons ?
Loda.......balls
 
No point in being in champions league to get pumped at the group stage and dumped out.

So are you saying you don't actually want CL?

We all know the arguments for obtaining CL (players want it, fans love big European nights and there's a tone of dosh at stake too)..... Or do you genuinely think it's a waste of time unless we are among the favourites to win it?

I'm not asking to be as good but atleast compete. We was at no point in this whole tie anywhere near the same stratosphere as them. United west ham Woolwich and United all have better squads. We have a couple of better individuals. Also all you've mentioned were competing with have easily dispatched us so far this season.

You've moved the goalposts.... You started off saying "There is absolutely no way this squad can achieve top 4" and offered up the strength of the Chav squad as the reason why.

....Now you wanna flip that to discuss the merits of the teams I mentioned. Fair enough, but that's a new, far more contentious debate. The only one with the far superior squad is United, but evidently there's still lots of issues there or they'd be challenging for the title such was the expectation at the start of the season.

Can we get top 4; yes..... We've already sacked a manager for bad results and dispite this have since gone on a strong run in the league which has left us in the mix and with games in hand. Will we get top 4; that remains to be seen; it's been another freaky season with many more bumps in the road ahead.
 
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If he had more than an 18 month contract I'd agree. The fact is his contract only runs until the end of next season so realistically what he needs to do he needs to start this window. Big ask for him to do it all this summer. And remember there is a world Cup sandwiched in next season.

So long as he is happy with our direction come the close of NEXT season there's perfectly reasonable reason to expect he;ll sign for longer.
 
So are you saying you don't actually want CL?

We all know the arguments for obtaining CL (players want it, fans love big European nights and there's a tone of dosh at play too)..... Or do you genuinely think it's a waste of time unless we are favourites to win it?



You've moved the goalposts.... You started off saying "There is absolutely no way this squad can achieve top 4" and offered up the strength of the Chav squad as the reason why.

....Now you wanna flip that to discuss the merits of the teams I mentioned. Fair enough, but that's a new, far more contentious debate. The only one with the far superior squad is United, but evidently there's still lots of issues there or they'd be challenging for the title such was the expectation at the start of the season.

Can we get top 4; yes..... We've already sacked a manager for bad results and dispite this have since gone on a strong run in the league which has left us in the mix and with games in hand. Will we get top 4; that remains to be seen; it's been another freaky season with many more bumps in the road ahead.
I want champions league football. I want a team that's able to compete in it not just be there for the money(that only ever benefits the owners) and can play some good football. I've watched us play united we we're awful. Woolwich we were awful. West ham played Chelsea and not only beat them but deserved to beat them. I've seen signs in all the sides you have mentioned that they could achieve a top 4 spot or that they are better than us. Name me what you see in this squad that has performed this way for 2 and a half seasons now that makes you believe we can beat any of those teams to a top 4 spot without signings.
 
So long as he is happy with our direction come the close of NEXT season there's perfectly reasonable reason to expect he;ll sign for longer.
At this point I'm assuming that he is here for the remainder of his contract. With such a big job to do I question why only an 18 month deal has been agreed because with a world Cup squeezed in next season I think it should of been a minimum of 3 years.
 
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