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Manager Antonio Conte

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You must think he’s a complete fucking nutjob if after every defeat he’s just saying stuff he doesn’t actually mean because he’s pissed off.

He gets angry. He speaks his mind. He then calms down and tries to be more measured. Nobody says what he did after Burnley without there being some truth in it.
he also said he doubted his own ability after Burnley, I don't believe that for a second.

He's a bit mad, I'm sure some of the stuff is true, he's also said he's got a good relationship with Levy.

I've no reason not to believe that?
 
he also said he doubted his own ability after Burnley, I don't believe that for a second.

He's a bit mad, I'm sure some of the stuff is true, he's also said he's got a good relationship with Levy.

I've no reason not to believe that?

The doubting his own ability bit sounds slightly insincere when he pairs it with the shit about this club having lots of managers but the same players.

He may well get on with Levy. But a man happy and secure in his job and getting what he feels he requires doesn’t say these things after a loss.
 
he also said he doubted his own ability after Burnley, I don't believe that for a second.

He's a bit mad, I'm sure some of the stuff is true, he's also said he's got a good relationship with Levy.

I've no reason not to believe that?

He didn't, he said "maybe I'm not that good" and then smirked. There's no way he doesn't have 100% faith in himself.

I think everyone needs to stop analysing his every word and action in these interviews. It is becoming more obvious by the week that he struggles a bit with the english language yet still is willing to give the interviews and try and express himself. Maybe he should be cut a bit of slack?
 
Most of our own fanbase think Spurs look worse than Conte do. If I go around the football world I see most people saying 'Spurs broke Conte!' rather than blaming him. The narrative will be that WE once again failed with a managerial appointment, that WE didn't give him what he was wanting when he joined us.

It needn't be one or the other.....

As per an earlier post I made... If he walks after 3/4 months, no pre-season and no summer window, all parties (club, manager, players) look bad.

Make no mistake, if he does end up walking (I still think he sees out his contract, but let's find out) then I suspect afterwards he will talk even more openly about why, and what is wrong with this club.

As much as I'd have welcomed it in the past (regardless of Conte); we rarely see this happen though.... Even confrontational managers like Jose & Rafe and gobshites like Sherwood & Redknapp tend to keep schtum through fear of alienating future employers.
 
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TBF and I appreciate they're not really analogous but he took over at Chelsea when they had just finished 10th

this summer we'll need a high quality - RWB, LCB, CM & Forward

ideally no more Emerson, Doherty, Winks, Davies etc
 
for me bentancur and skipp is potentially a top4 level midfield. the problem is their back ups which are relegation level

Can't see it.

Not only do they not have the talent right now as a pair they offer so little progression, passing and zero creativity.

Maybe if we add that at a high, borderline elite, level at WB and up front we can get by with a hardworking, low skilled MF but they are not close to the level that the top teams have and too similar in their skill sets in my view.

With Conte we often reference the Inter team he had and they are not as good or as good a mix as the midfielders he had there with Brozovic, Barella and Vidal/Eriksen.
 
I think it is funny that people think his comments about being emotional mean there is no reason to be concerned.

Yes he was emotional but the things he was saying weren't just randomly made up. He clearly feels everything that he said and that should concern Spurs fans.

But the usual apologists rush in pretend like everything is alright rather than look at reality.
 
You must think he’s a complete fucking nutjob if after every defeat he’s just saying stuff he doesn’t actually mean because he’s pissed off.

He's pretty much just said as much today though......

......But obv. only the drama should be given credence, yeh?

He gets angry. He speaks his mind. He then calms down and tries to be more measured. Nobody says what he did after Burnley without there being some truth in it.

Ergo..... His emoted initial reaction isn't the same as his deeper more considered feelings.

Personally, I think it's comforting to a degree that at least he has the self-awareness to see this (even if some would rather paint him as some weak man subservient to Levy so long as it suits their narrative).

(The Burnley stuff was largely faux self doubt... Quasi-Emo vibes...... He didn't kick outwards.)

Is he frustrated? Yes.
Does he want better players? Yes.
Has there been a certain amount of unnecessary melodrama this last couple of weeks thanks to his reactionary rants and bi-polar commentary? Yes.
Is he likely to change? Probably not.
Is he at war with Levy? Seemingly not.
Will the elements of the fanbase that are hungry for such conflict heed any of the lessons of the last fortnight? I very much doubt it.
 
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Lose at Leeds, and Conte's PPM = 1.6... below Mourinho's rate for Spurs.

FWIW, we're still playing a much higher tempo than under Mourinho + Nuno... not sure that's the best strategy for a smaller-sized squad whose main players have been run into the ground by club AND country over the past several seasons but that's why he gets the big bucks.
 
I think it is funny that people think his comments about being emotional mean there is no reason to be concerned.

Yes he was emotional but the things he was saying weren't just randomly made up. He clearly feels everything that he said and that should concern Spurs fans.

But the usual apologists rush in pretend like everything is alright rather than look at reality.
I don't think trying to focus on the positives is a bad thing.

we all know we need improvements and they quad is par/below bar but wallowing and turning towards constant negativity isn't for me and doesn't help the situation. I can't affect the situation anyway so yeah, I'd rather dispel negativity.
 
I don't think trying to focus on the positives is a bad thing.

we all know we need improvements and they quad is par/below bar but wallowing and turning towards constant negativity isn't for me and doesn't help the situation. I can't affect the situation anyway so yeah, I'd rather dispel negativity.

I don’t see how ignoring reality helps anything.

It isn’t negative to point out facts.
 
He's pretty much just said as much today though......

......But obv. only the drama should be given credence, yeh?



Ergo..... His emoted initial reaction isn't the same as his deeper more considered feelings.

Personally, I think it's comforting to a degree that at least he has the self-awareness to see this (even if some would rather paint him as some weak man subservient to Levy so long as it suits their narrative).

(The Burnley stuff was largely faux self doubt... Quasi-Emo vibes...... He didn't kick outwards.)

Is he frustrated? Yes.
Does he want better players? Yes.
Has there been a certain amount of unnecessary melodrama this last couple of weeks thanks to his reactionary rants and bi-polar commentary? Yes.
Is he likely to change? Probably not.
Is he at war with Levy? Seemingly not.
Will the elements of the fanbase that are hungry for such conflict heed any of the lessons of the last fortnight? I very much doubt it.

When you're angry and lash out, do you say stuff you don't mean? Or do you say stuff you really do mean, but wouldn't usually say when you're controlling yourself? When someone is in this scenario where they're angry and their blood is up, they're open. They aren't doing PR bullshit, they aren't holding back, they're saying what they feel. That's what Conte did after Burnley.

I don't think he's weak and/or subservient. I do think he's a man who knows being totally open was probably a mistake because the impact on the players could be negative. He was too open with his emotions and admits that, this doesn't mean the emotions expressed were false. He absolutely kicked out at the club when he said we've had lots of managers but the same players.

Rich to suggest one element of the fanbase needs to learn lessons .. only one side is being consistently proven wrong about where this team is at on the field and how happy Conte is. Most of you lot thought we were well in the top 4 race, some still do!
 
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Lose at Leeds, and Conte's PPM = 1.6... below Mourinho's rate for Spurs.

FWIW, we're still playing a much higher tempo than under Mourinho + Nuno... not sure that's the best strategy for a smaller-sized squad whose main players have been run into the ground by club AND country over the past several seasons but that's why he gets the big bucks.

We should sack him!!!
 
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