Completely agree. We should be firing him out of cannon into a giant bowl of custard.
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Completely agree. We should be firing him out of cannon into a giant bowl of custard.
It's time for him to go, he clearly can't wait to be sacked.
Something I'm not looking forward to is the recrimination. He'll be painted as a victim in some quarters - sacked with the team 4th which is a "miracle", still recovering from an operation, unmanageable team.
Something I'm not looking forward to is the recrimination. He'll be painted as a victim in some quarters - sacked with the team 4th which is a "miracle", still recovering from an operation, unmanageable team.
How many matches this year can we look back on now and be reflect, "wow, we really came in with a great tactical approach that maximized what we do well and took advantage of what the opponent does not do well?"
I mean, maybe the City match, but that's a tale as old as time.
Besides that? I really struggle to remember us playing a team off the pitch for 90 minutes as a result of the tactical approach our manager employed.
Not to mention we simply don't attack well or defend well in general, and haven't all season.
I couldn't agree more with your post. Yes, he did not get everything he wanted this summer, but he said he was happy with the squad. It's his job to out smart the opposition, it's his job to motivate the players, it's his job to improve the players. He's failed all season, we've never been a consistently good side.
Not to mention the constant cries of "patience" from the guy who won't commit to the club and makes it seem like we're beneath him/he's doing us a massive favor just by being here.
The longer he's been here, the worse the football has been.
He's magic
You know.... Marcelo Gallardo
The common denominator is of course….
Kane. He’s obviously the problem. Let him go on a free!
That's not how it's all being seen by the media, pundits and oppo fans.........
So reports he's about to be sacked and we will let Mason run the team until the end of the season..
Why?
If we are sacking him get the bloke we want in charge next season now. Nothing against Mason but Christ alive we are still in the hunt for CL. If it's Poch we want again as reported get him in now 100%.
Why?
If we are sacking him get the bloke we want in charge next season now. Nothing against Mason but Christ alive we are still in the hunt for CL. If it's Poch we want again as reported get him in now 100%.
Maybe the new manager we want to get in either doesn't want to take over the team mid season or are currently still in a job.
I am certain some people just don't think.
Not sure of your point.
Tbh, my beef at the end Jose's reign was with the players. I agree with what Conte said about the players now.
But the players aren't gonna start playing for him now so he has to go.
The point is this.
You say you give Levy a pass on this one. And you blame the players for Jose's demise.
But if Levy hires 10 permanent managers who win 61 (SIXTY ONE!) trophies between them before and after managing Spurs, but just 1 between the WHOLE LOT of them in all their time managing Spurs, I think the evidence is pretty irrefutable that the real problem is Levy himself.
So why does he deserve a free pass
He hires and fires them all. And when he hires winners, they all mysteriously become losers.
This is as good as you're gonna get in terms of factual evidence, Conte wanted him, he also wanted and got Perisic which was 100% his signing (which we will get into later) You still gonna tell me he has no input into transfers?
Guessing that Danjuma got his head turned by the money by the looks of this:
Villarreal boss explains ‘logical’ Danjuma decision as Spurs near loan signing
Quique Setien said Arnaut Danjuma’s “head is not there” after asking to leavewww.standard.co.uk
The club have been looking for a left sided winger since last season, Diaz would have been our player had Liverpool not stepped in, this Jan we made a bid for Trossard and agreed a fee with Udinese for Deulofeu but he got injured, that seems like a plan to me.
Not sure what your point about training is, you don't get a chance to show your talent in training, it's not the same as playin a match, Conte didn't try Spence once in the cup matches when he could have played him against lesser opposition, why?
Also...defence comes first yet he asked for Peresic and constantly plays him yet he cannot defend to save his life, make it makes sense.
Neither has Kulusevski what's your point
Ask yourself whether players can prove a net positive in the team, it's not just about goals, it's about ball retention, picking the ball up in tight spaces, link up play...everything Son hasn't been doing this season, maybe just maybe moves wouldn't be so quick to break down if we had other players playing in the team.
This is interesting, you say it takes time so why has he only signed an 18 month contract? Why has he not committed further to the project? Why is he bailing with 2 months to go on his contract. He said himself it takes 'another 3 transfer windows' when the window closed, we've had 1 since then.
I would have ensured that I got another CB in if I were in his position or failing that I probably would have changed the formation from time to time, not every match did we need 3 at the back.
Levy has relinquished £200m of the club's money so I'm looking at recruitment, so if that's the case then Paratici and Conte ought to be on the same page in terms of incomings so what's happened there?
The style from last season was indefinitely different to this season, we actually had a style and some sort of semblance of Conte ball game plan, we have only seen a glimpse of that this season.
Interesting you've mentioned Poch but he was responsible for getting those players up to that level in both ability and mentality so if he's capable of it then an elite coach should be as well.
Yeah well I think it's time we fully commit to the idea of a project manager and go back to go forward and if that means selling Kane then so be it, I'm here for it.
Did Conte want Lenglet more than Bastoni? Or did he want him when he realized that was the best available? If Lenglet was top of Conte's list then it's on Conte. I don't think he was for a minute, neither of us know for sure.
He has input but as we saw he got some of those he was happy with and some ihe wasn't. That doesn't make sense to me at all - you don't bring in a Conte and give him players he doesn't want - he's a winner, do it quickly, compete with the best type manager. He hasn't got enough to do that, hence his frustration. Hence why he only signed for 18 months because a) the club allowed him to out of desperation and b) he wanted to make sure Levy wasn't gonna stiff him as he has every other manager. Turns out Conte was right and he's not sticking around for more of the same. Can't say I blame him.
Doesn't seem Conte wanted Dan so there's a massive disconnect somewhere in the club.
Totally disagree on training, you show your ability to absorb ideas, compete with team mates, work hard, follow instructions and make the manager sit up and take notice of your skill, ability, mentality and workrate.
Spence didn't play because he had two others in front of him and Conte didn't want him. Simples.
Per isn't a great defender agreed, maybe it was a season too far for him, especially in the Prem. It made sense because he'd won a title playing him there, he is an experienced player of excellent attacking quality. Spence is not.
Son hasn't done it much every season, his main ability is his finishing off both feet and his pace, he's never held it up well, pressed well, won headers much or fancied the physical side. He could've played Richy more I agree but I understand why Son got game time due to his finishing ability which is exceptional.
Already answered the 18 month question. More moot is why did Levy agree to it? He's the chairman of Spurs, not Conte. We know why, because he'd fucked himself with Jose and Nuno. We were 9th. Crowds were starting to get smaller, it was hopeless. Conte is surely a net positive following that with 4th twice?
You would've ensured nothing. Honestly, if Poch, Jose and Conte can get stiffed by Levy you think you'd get what you wanted?! Now who's being arrogant. And forgive me (and I mean this sincerely) if I ignore your tactical formation tweaks as just a fan on a forum with no experience at this level talking about things he knows little about compared to managers.
I dunno what's happened but I do know we'd wasted £250m before either Conte or Para turned up. Maybe if we hadn't we wouldn't need so many players now.
The style hasn't changed, the implementation of it has deteriorated though. More players out of form, more injuries to key players, Conte's problems with health etc. Maybe even the fact he's out of contract come season end. But that's on our chairman.
It's been an interesting discussion and I thank you for it, you've made some very good points, but I have to come away from it now as it's taking up a lot of time and I've got a lot of other shit I need to focus on.
I didn't say he deserves a free pass forever. Just say he does on this one.
Conte was a hire that lots wanted and he backed him despite Tony being non-committal about his future.
But just so this doesn't drag on and on - I don't care who owns the club. Every single owner has flaws. The grass could be greener after ENIC, it has an equal chance of being completely scorched.
Levy is in charge. He will be for a while. I don't think he's as bad as some make out. I don't think he's as good as some make out. But I'm probably more towards him being seen as a good steward overall for our club when his time is done.
Just give me fun , exciting football to look forward to each week and I'm a happy Billy Bob.
"20 years there is this owner and they never won something. Why?"
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