I didn't say it would be easy or likely. But it is the way forward if we want to take our chances better and score more freely. We are operating pretty much at max capacity with the current squad, so if we want to see marked improvement on the pitch, we gotta get more out of the transfer market.
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Are we clinical enough?
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Absolutely no evidence to support that statement. You have no idea what our potential is with this squad. You’re now making things up.
Mate we finished 2nd last season, still far behind the champions, and now we are fighting to scrape into top 4 and getting further and further from the champions elect. Do you really think that without making any changes to this exact squad, we are going to win the league? With what we are up against? It seems pretty apparent that 2nd was as good as it's going to get with this current setup.
Again, that’s not what you said. You have absolutely no idea whether we’re ‘operating at max capacity with this squad’. Not the slightest clue. We have big players coming back from injury, we haven’t even seen what this squad can achieve. Is Lucas one of the players we need to replace, or will you give him more than 20 minutes before you write him off? You come over as entitled, sorry, but you do.
Conversion rate is not something the team controls. It's just a high variance statistic.
We still create a lot of great chances, and allow very few for the other team. Other than that, even Messi misses 80% of his shots.
Or I'm just being realistic about things and you are being unnecessarily defensive and confrontational. You have a point though, I don't really have a clue, none of us do really. A lot of the things we say here are of no real substance or consequence. We could just not say anything until after the fact and only regurgitate the things that happened, would you prefer that?
Regarding some of our selfish attacking play from the likes of Kane and Sonny; it often looks like the square pass is on (at least on TV), and I'm starting to lose count of the number of times I've seen one of our players looking frustrated after not receiving the ball. I put it down to them being completely focused on scoring, which is good...sometimes. I also believe the persuit of records was clouding Kane's judgement until he hit his century.
It's nitpicking of the highest order as we're playing the best football of my lifetime. I was too young to appreciate '82 and '84 so asside from '91, the Mickey mouse cup wins and our CL run under Redknap, this is easily the best time I've had following Spurs. Just wish Kane would pass a bit more.
It's nitpicking of the highest order as we're playing the best football of my lifetime. I was too young to appreciate '82 and '84 so asside from '91, the Mickey mouse cup wins and our CL run under Redknap, this is easily the best time I've had following Spurs. Just wish Kane would pass a bit more.
Why am I being unnecessarily defensive and confrontational? I could accuse you of exactly the same thing. Without the evidence of facts it’s simply a matter of opinion. You see yourself as being realistic and me as being confrontational? What the fuck? You are conferring, upon yourself, as having a superior viewpoint. You don’t. It’s a forum as everyone seems hellbent to insist upon. Expect your opinions to be challenged. Personally I think you’re talking a lot of shit, and are being deliberately negative.
If the players aren't in control of converting chances then who or what is?
Yep you got me, exposed and guilty as charged. I'm just here spreading my negative agenda to destabilize the club and bring it down from the inside. Thank god for you and your diligent calling out of those who talk shit. Another job well done sir, bravo!
Now if you don't mind, I'm gonna bow out and go to bed; with my tail firmly between my legs I of course, what with the schooling I've just received and all that.
I feel we are....when we don't create chances in games, then we are not good enough-simple
When we play better teams in high profile game as in the CL and hopefully as we progress in the FAC , we become better as a team. Players are better, focused so always , or most occasions play the right pass and this creates better chances. Against other sides, Kane or Son, will do his their own thing at times, knowing that many opportunities will present themselves. Better opposition the chances are fewer so players become more clinical with their decision making.
So for me, it should create better scoring opportunities. Its all about being focused at different levels against different teams. Kane will always go for goal, thats his bag but higher profile games he less self indulgent lets say.
When we play better teams in high profile game as in the CL and hopefully as we progress in the FAC , we become better as a team. Players are better, focused so always , or most occasions play the right pass and this creates better chances. Against other sides, Kane or Son, will do his their own thing at times, knowing that many opportunities will present themselves. Better opposition the chances are fewer so players become more clinical with their decision making.
So for me, it should create better scoring opportunities. Its all about being focused at different levels against different teams. Kane will always go for goal, thats his bag but higher profile games he less self indulgent lets say.
Don’t be childish. Other people have different opinions to yourself. You’re coming over like a spoilt brat. Are you young and American? It’s just that I noticed you use American spellings.
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We create a lot of chances, and with that comes the increased likelihood of missing them.
It’s a nice problem to have.
It’s fair to say that we were wasteful against Woolwich, but as long as we’re constantly creating chances I can live with that.
I guess there’s an argument to be made that our players may be a little complacent thinking that chances will pop up regularly, but considering we’ve scored in 21 consecutive games I’m not too worried. If anything it’s perfect practice for sharpening their abilities.
It’s a nice problem to have.
It’s fair to say that we were wasteful against Woolwich, but as long as we’re constantly creating chances I can live with that.
I guess there’s an argument to be made that our players may be a little complacent thinking that chances will pop up regularly, but considering we’ve scored in 21 consecutive games I’m not too worried. If anything it’s perfect practice for sharpening their abilities.
Come on mate. I agree there are other factors at work including a small amount of luck. But surely the majority is down to sound judgement/decision making and practiced technique.
Few of things from my view...
First, our team is very young. Seems safe to say that we haven't maxed out given that many of our guys are just entering their primes or still a couple of years from it.
Second, I get frustrated with Sonny in particular with seeming a bit selfish. Usually, shortly thereafter, he nets one. Sometimes, against bunkering type opponents, just getting our shots in will get the job done. Either a make, a rebound, or force a save for a corner.
Third, some games, it is frustrating that we are not more clinical. But it is more frustrating with the rare games where we don't create chances.
First, our team is very young. Seems safe to say that we haven't maxed out given that many of our guys are just entering their primes or still a couple of years from it.
Second, I get frustrated with Sonny in particular with seeming a bit selfish. Usually, shortly thereafter, he nets one. Sometimes, against bunkering type opponents, just getting our shots in will get the job done. Either a make, a rebound, or force a save for a corner.
Third, some games, it is frustrating that we are not more clinical. But it is more frustrating with the rare games where we don't create chances.
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Other factors do come into play and players make thier choice. Luck has to play a part because players would score with every effort.
Its how much luck? I feel a large chunck of luck is needed. From the player kicking the ball to the keeper slightly off the mark. Deflections and scuffs all play a part, Kanes execution is top draw and thats why he has the wow factor at this high level of football where time and space is minimised. Most players take thier chance and hope because they can't processe the information to compose themselves. Its split second stuff so yes luck plays a big part. Lower league these same players would score for fun.
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I feel these wasted chances are minimised when we play better teams. Players seem to do make better choices than look for glory because there are fewer chances and the game has much more importance. We become a better team and come together as a team. thats where Poch wants us , as one.
In a sense, no one. You can say players are, in that they can work on their individual skills, but no one seems to be able to show a consistent ability to convert chances at a higher rate. Conversion %s wander around over careers, and don't seem to be repeatable for very many (if any) players.
If it's not repeatable, it's not really in their control.