Don't disagree about Rose's ability but he has has some bridges to rebuild as far as I'm concerned. If he comes back with his head and attitude right I'll be more than happy but in the meantime I'm really happy with Davies who is a more than able replacement.
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Rose is definitely better than Davies in almost everything you can judge a wing back on.
but Davies has improved to such a level that him being our starting left wing back isn't trouble and Rose will have a hard time getting back in the team, if at all. I still can't wait to see how he does against genuine opposition. The likes of Walker, Mane and other pacy players that tend to have caused him problems in the past - but until then, keep it up Davies
2 goals and 2 assists so far this season is a great reply.
but Davies has improved to such a level that him being our starting left wing back isn't trouble and Rose will have a hard time getting back in the team, if at all. I still can't wait to see how he does against genuine opposition. The likes of Walker, Mane and other pacy players that tend to have caused him problems in the past - but until then, keep it up Davies
2 goals and 2 assists so far this season is a great reply.
Nostalgia and historical bias playing a part in here where people are saying Rose is better. We can't be sure of that anymore. Rose and Davis are different kind of players, but considering how long Rose has been out for, I would be shocked if he manages to get anywhere near his prime over two seasons ago.
Shame, but Rose would not be able to replace Davis this season as first choice and probably will fuck off to City in January. But silver lining is, Davis has advanced to a level above his best over last season.
The key thing is, doesn't matter if Rose plays or Davis plays, under Pochetino's system and tactics, fullbacks are always going to look extra special and Rose will be replaced by someone who will grow into a great fullback for us.
Shame, but Rose would not be able to replace Davis this season as first choice and probably will fuck off to City in January. But silver lining is, Davis has advanced to a level above his best over last season.
The key thing is, doesn't matter if Rose plays or Davis plays, under Pochetino's system and tactics, fullbacks are always going to look extra special and Rose will be replaced by someone who will grow into a great fullback for us.
He's a better crosser of the ball than Rose
Davies is alright in these types of games but against top oppo I dont really have any confidence in either him or Trippier.
That said, we dont play top oppo every week so I'm more than happy to have them in the squad as understudys. Aurier and Rose are 1st choice always IMO.
That said, we dont play top oppo every week so I'm more than happy to have them in the squad as understudys. Aurier and Rose are 1st choice always IMO.
Did pretty damn well against Dortmund
I think Ben Davies is a bigger goal threat than Rose, tbh.
Rose goals
2015/16 - 1 goal
2016/17 - 2 goals
Rose tends to go on the outside and may end up with more assists as a result, but Davies has a very good shot on him and his inside runs cause a lot of problems for teams.
I think it's defenders in general.
Poch's system relies so much on stopping attacks through positioning and pressing that his defenders' strengths tend to be heightened. People forget that Lovren looked really good under Pochettino but is ridiculed as a clown ever since he moved on.
Whilst our defence was shambolic in his first season (which included Rose and Walker), he was always chopping and changing with Kaboul, Dier, Vertonghen, Chiriches and it took a while to weed out some of that toxic and for us to look a unit.
Nostalgia and historical bias?
Mate he was in the team of the year 2 years in a row. Him and Walker were considered the best fullbacks in the league and we all considered Rose better than Walker.
Let's be real.
I'd love it if Davies had Rose's pace. If he did, then he'd also be first choice against the likes of LFC and Citeh.
But he doesn't, so the tit that is Rose will still get that gig.
Davies will get a lot of games at LWB/LB, because so many of the teams below top 6 are in a relegation fight and are shit. I would also like Jan Vert given the odd bit of rest and recuperation. Davies can deputise there if needed.
But he doesn't, so the tit that is Rose will still get that gig.
Davies will get a lot of games at LWB/LB, because so many of the teams below top 6 are in a relegation fight and are shit. I would also like Jan Vert given the odd bit of rest and recuperation. Davies can deputise there if needed.
I think it's the system. He gives them a system, a framework for reference. Which means that the back 3/4/5 will always be more than the sum of their parts because they aren't playing like individuals but as a complete unit. For attackers, it's like trying to wrestle an Octopus.
I'd like to think also that it means it will be easier to integrate our promising youth into the first team. If a lad has:
pace;
intelligence (to understand the coaching);
decent ball skills;
good professional attitude (willing to learn)
good team ethos
then he's got a decent chance of slotting in. If these guys have been with the club for a few years, then all of the above will be obvious. We could be singing "he's one of our own" quite alot in the future
