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A sad day for football.A sad day for their fans.
Which is why you will not hear me moan about what we've been doing.Kind of puts into perspective a bit when we're constantly moaning about having one of the best-run clubs in the country!
My non league team - King’s Lynn, is another Phoenix club in the same league. They went bust in 2009 pretty much “doing a Leeds” trying to get to a level that they probably weren’t ready for. I used to go regularly when there was a real risk that they would go under. By the time I moved away from the town and stopped going they were still going. However not long after the tax man wound them up for what seemed like a paltry amount and there was no football for the rest of that season. They were reformed when the local speedway empresario talked the council into letting him have the ground for a peppercorn rent. A reasonable amount of resentment from the fans ensued, but so did 3 promotions since then. Never as champions though.Talking from experience when my local club Hereford United died late in 2014, the record of games played that season was expunged, meaning any points gained by other teams against Hereford were lost, and every week one team didn't have a game to play.
Then a few individuals worked in conjunction with the Hereford United Supporters Trust (HUST) to set the wheels in motion to form a new club. for the following season, 2015/16. Prior to this, in the summer of 2014 Hereford had been kicked out of the National League Premier and had to drop two divisions to the Southern League Premier, due to not being able to satisfy the National League board that they had the necessary finance in place to complete the season. Because Hereford were in the Southern League Premier (tier 7 of the football pyramid) when going bust, the reformed club had to drop even further, to the Midland Premier, tier 9 of the pyramid. This is because the FA have a rule that all reformed clubs have to start at least 2 levels below where they were when they went bang. Effectively Hereford got relegated 4 divisions in little over a year.
The huge support for that level meant that Hereford were far greater than all the clubs at their new level, and achieved 3 promotions in three years, before eventually levelling out in the National League North (level 6). A lot of fans believe they have a divine right to go up again, but this is a really competitive league and I can't see Hereford getting out of it for some time, but at least there's still a club playing in the same stadium, in the same colours, with nearly the same name (the new club doesn't have "United" in its name).
I hope that Bury can do something similar, but my mate who is a Bury fan has fears that a phoenix club might not even be able to play in the town of Bury. Their stadium is currently owned by a company that does bridging loans, and the stadium is on prime development land. If the club goes bust, there's a possibility that it'll get sold off to a developer, rather than kept as a football stadium. Their supporters trust is in negotiations with this company, and apparently talks have gone ok, but I feel he's probably stringing them along.
If they can't get their stadium back then they'd have to groundshare with a smaller club in a neighbouring town, but that would likely see support drop off, and that's usually the difference that helps these clubs climb up through the lower leagues. They could end up doing a Scarborough, who played in Bridlington for 10 years, and never saw the kind of progress usually enjoyed by phoenix clubs.
I think their best bet is that somehow they're saved and somebody turns their fortunes around, but it's looking very very unlikely now
Dale is total and utter lying cunt, he bought Bury for a £1. How the EFL let the sale go through is beyond belief.Just read on the BBC site that Joy Hart, a former director of the club, has handcuffed herself to the drainpipe outside the office. It's really sad to see that the club could be gone in 48 hours, I really hope something can be done.
Apparently Steve Dale has been turning down offers that would save the club because he doesn't feel the offers are high enough.
I really feel that with so much money coming in from the premier league the FA should be doing more to support clubs in the lower leagues and work with owners to ensure they're run properly. I also think they should have some sort of emergency fund to make sure that players and staff are paid if a club falls into financial dire straits like this.
Dale is an absolute charlatan. 8 of the last 10 businesses that he has purchased have been liquidated. The EFL did absolutely no background check on him when they okayed the purchase.Just read on the BBC site that Joy Hart, a former director of the club, has handcuffed herself to the drainpipe outside the office. It's really sad to see that the club could be gone in 48 hours, I really hope something can be done.
Apparently Steve Dale has been turning down offers that would save the club because he doesn't feel the offers are high enough.
I really feel that with so much money coming in from the premier league the FA should be doing more to support clubs in the lower leagues and work with owners to ensure they're run properly. I also think they should have some sort of emergency fund to make sure that players and staff are paid if a club falls into financial dire straits like this.
Wow!
Bury gone. What a huge shame