Top of the league. Do one.I've watched the game twice. Second time I looked specifically at Kane every time he got the ball. What part of the game do you think he held the ball up well? Because on rewatch, it was one of the worst hold up performances I've seen from Kane since the Pochettino days. Which surprised me.
I wouldn't agree that he got forward when we countered either. There were numerous times where he found himself 35 yards from goal passing out wide, only to jog to the middle or drop back a bit deeper (to give the wide man an option to pass back to him) as opposed to... you know.... getting in the box or trying to get on the end of a cross.
The only thing I can give Kane credit for all game is the return pass to Aurier for our only shot on goal that troubled the goalkeeper. Our RIGHT BACK, having better chances than our main man in a London derby.
I don't think he done what was asked of him at all - I reckon what was asked of him was to drop deep, get on the ball and play in Son and Bergwijn (or our full backs) with balls over the top or through the middle - which he didn't do, because he was completely marked out of the game. Is that Kane's fault or Mourinho's fault for not changing it when it was clear it wasn't working?
Who knows - but neither of them changed it and our second half performance was an embarrassment from an offensive point of view and when Kane is your main man, who you go to for creativity (as proven this season) as well as scoring goals. He HAS to take criticism.
Especially when the likes of Rodon are getting abuse for mistakes that came to nothing.
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Top of the league. Do one.
Here's an idea, don't think. More often then not the ball came long from the back to the front. When it came to him he got the ball to the right man, got into the box but clearly was told to take caution and this was dependent on how quickly we wanted to break. Overall we didn't have a lot of occasions where we had more then son/bergwyn up there so you can see a pattern. Kane's told often in quick counters is to open up space with a pass and he won't always then get up there quick enough. The only thing he did was right was a pass to aurier who had more chances then our main man? Completely brain dead opinion. Now aurier is better and Harry is worse now then under poch? Wow
Course Harry has to take criticism but he also has to take praise and have things put into context. You've banged on about how he plays, played down his contribution and goals and say well he should be there. It's a joke. Get real. Right up there in terms of individual records and the club is top of the league. Everything is perfect...so far. He played how he was told otherwise Jose would change it. Both managers played for a draw and that's exactly what they got so yes, it worked fine. Jose was not going to give away more chances to chase a win, lampard did the same. It does not matter if it was a London derby either. They were at home and spent the best part of quarter million on that team that was already a top 4 team so Jose is not going to go toe to toe as he didn't against city. 4 points from those two and top of the league. What's that got to do with Chelsea game? Everything!! Clean sheet, didn't lose, top of the league. FFS
No shit.
No he didn't. Stop talking bollocks. There's literally replays of the full match online. If you're going to discuss how we and Kane played. Atleast fucking watch the game. Before looking like an absolute donut in the process.
Where have I even said this?
I'm guessing your first language isn't English. Because I don't think anyone can be as stupid as you.
Praise for what?
Where did I play down his contribution and goals?
Am I not the one calling him the best striker in the world?
Reading skills mother fucker, do you have them?
Cool.
Whats that got to do with Chelsea?
And it didn't work against Chelsea.
Our defence worked fine.
Well done.
I've praised the fact we've got 4 points against Chelsea and Man City. Kept cleansheet and are top of the league.
Again, what's that got to do with Kanes performance against Chelsea?
Kane was poor against Chelsea. Your overly biast view isn't going to change my mind on the matter.
I mean playing in a league competition, what does being top of it got to do with anything.
Find the post where I said we weren't top of the league.
Fuckme what kind of retard quotes every line. Fucking OCD cunt. Yeah no shit cos you're that stupid you need simple things pointing out
I watched the game and I saw how kane played thanks. Unlike a moron like you I don't doubt myself that much I've got to watch a 0-0 draw twice. And you're still oblivious to the tactics we employed in this game and in all games with regards to Kane. Yes it did work against Chelsea as Jose wanted and got a draw. We can risk winning the game but may then lose it which I'm sure bitchy people like you will have an opinion on.
Not sure why you need to keep saying what's this got to do with Chelsea what's that got to do with Chelsea. You fucking brought up such topics which your opinions were also moronic I might add. Reading and memory skills you dumb fuck.
Individual stats for him, team stats for us. Everything is pointing to every player doing exactly what Jose wants. We're top because of that. So everything is according to plan. Now shut up and back under the rock you crawled from
Hahahaha did I claim you did or didn't say that or did I just respond to a post where you said being top has nothing to do with it?
You quoted a post of mine that originated from someone mentioning we're top of the league.
What does being top of the league have to do with Kane's poor Chelsea performance?
I'm making it easier for you. I'm gauging that you're possibly on the spectrum, so every little helps.
How nice of you to call me a retard though. Cute,
Clearly your eyes aren't working then considering you've described parts of his game that simply didn't happen against Chelsea.
The fact you think the best striker in the world was above average in a game where he had zero shots on target and was marked out of the game tells me you probably don't actually remember the game.
Oblivious?
I've discussed NUMEROUS times the tactics we employed and praised our defence. Defensively, it worked against Chelsea. That's never been in question.
But if you seriously believe we went into the game wanting to draw it and to nullify Kane as some sort of sacrifice for defensive solidarity then probably calling you an idiot was too much praise.
You mention my reading skills yet can't even quote the correct words I say.
You keep bringing up cleansheets, top of the league, best defence yadayadayada - and I keep asking you what THOSE have to do with Kane's performance against Chelsea?
They are different subjects. Yes, we're top of the league. Because we've got more points than 18 other teams. Yes, we kept a cleansheet and have the best defence, because defensively we were solid.
I'll ask you again though, this time put the kettle on, make yourself a cuppa and really soak this one in:
What have THOSE things in particular got to do with Kane's performance against Chelsea?
Yeah, Kane is having a great season. 7 goals and 9 assists in the league. Spurs are having a great season. Top of the league after 10 games. One of the top scoring teams with the best defence. Excellent performance so far.
Sadly, the same can't be said Kane's individual performance against Chelsea. Which, again, was below average.
What does this have to do with Kane's performance, what does that have to do with Kane's performance. Kane's performance Kane's performance blah blah blah blah. No one else is talking like you about him. Funny that isn't it
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NO ONE is talking about Kane. After a big London Derby.
That's sort of the point.
He didn't affect the game in anyway. He was marked out of the game and limited to zero shots on target.
He won't be criticised in the same way other strikers would because a) It's one game and b) He's untouchable within this fanbase.
You're going on as if I am criticising Kane as a player - I've merely stated his performance was below average. Which it was. So was Heung-min Sons performance.
Lampard/Chelsea didn't "play for a draw".
I don't necessarily think Mourinho "played for a draw" but Mourinho's tactical approach was much, much more risk averse and about not losing than Lampard's was.
And to be fair, in this current Kane mode, he'll duck some criticism because he generally does graft and provide - or try to provide - other things for the team, he drops into midfield a bit, he defends, he tries to provide the fulcrum from which others like Son hub off and is so far our most creatively productive player for others.
But the rest of your argument I'm on board with. Don't think Sunday was all his fault, Mourinho's heavily risk averse tactics, only one central midfielder who can play football and transition the ball, and Kante at the base of their 433 doing his job rendered Kane ineffective Sunday.
First half Ndombele picked up some of that slack and did ok, but the more we retreated up our own anuses the less either could get on the ball.
Fucking hell. You even heard lampard say they went worked on stopping kane and son. No one is talking about Kane son or anyone, they are talking about the unit as a whole. Is anyone talking about any Chelsea player? No
They played not to lose but to try and nick a goal. Chelsea being the home team and maybe you could say they are the better team with more individuals that could change the game would of course have more of the ball and few more chances, but apart from one Hugo save I don't see they did much either.
No I think you're making easier for yourself which clearly isn't working since you contradict your own points from earlier posts. Not sure why you keep blithering on about what xyz has to do with Kane's performance against Chelsea when earlier you talk about his performances in other games. You ask what our defensive stats has to do with the performance against Chelsea. It has everything to do with it as it explains why we setup the way we did and players played the way they did. Lol calling me an idiot was too much praise when it's obvious kane was asked to stay much deeper. Clear for all to see except of course you a specialist of stupidityI'm making it easier for you. I'm gauging that you're possibly on the spectrum, so every little helps.
How nice of you to call me a retard though. Cute,
Clearly your eyes aren't working then considering you've described parts of his game that simply didn't happen against Chelsea.
The fact you think the best striker in the world was above average in a game where he had zero shots on target and was marked out of the game tells me you probably don't actually remember the game.
Oblivious?
I've discussed NUMEROUS times the tactics we employed and praised our defence. Defensively, it worked against Chelsea. That's never been in question.
But if you seriously believe we went into the game wanting to draw it and to nullify Kane as some sort of sacrifice for defensive solidarity then probably calling you an idiot was too much praise.
You mention my reading skills yet can't even quote the correct words I say.
You keep bringing up cleansheets, top of the league, best defence yadayadayada - and I keep asking you what THOSE have to do with Kane's performance against Chelsea?
They are different subjects. Yes, we're top of the league. Because we've got more points than 18 other teams. Yes, we kept a cleansheet and have the best defence, because defensively we were solid.
I'll ask you again though, this time put the kettle on, make yourself a cuppa and really soak this one in:
What have THOSE things in particular got to do with Kane's performance against Chelsea?
Yeah, Kane is having a great season. 7 goals and 9 assists in the league. Spurs are having a great season. Top of the league after 10 games. One of the top scoring teams with the best defence. Excellent performance so far.
Sadly, the same can't be said Kane's individual performance against Chelsea. Which, again, was below average.
We were even less attacking against city but they didn't setup like Chelsea did in stopping our counters. Does it mean we wanted to draw?? No it means we setup not to concede and to maybe nick one on the counter. It's playing like you'd be happy with a draw as a minimum. My my you are confused aren't you. Hopefully that clears it up although the way you're going I doubt it will. I quote what you say spot on. Doesn't literally have to be word perfect.You seem to have too much time on your hands to sit there quoting a line at a time from previous replies. Does it make a difference. No! I can't be arsed with all that because you're beyond help. A cuppa sounds great. Good idea
My eyes are fine. How I described the game and the way kane played was correct. As I said. He was not bang average at all. His game is about just goals anymore or shots on goal, which no doubt you'll reply with "but he's a striker" (I'll refer you back to his stats again and how he now plays).
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Which they did....
Hence the below average performances from the two.
Is the penny finally dropping!?
What point have I contradicted?
No, I asked what our defensive stats had to do with KANES performance against Chelsea. Not our performance.
Seriously, are you feeling alright? This isn't getting all abit too much for you is it?
We were even LESS attacking against City!???
Fucking hell lol
You said we played for a draw. Why would we play for something we didn't want?
I was happy with the draw. I said before the game I'd take a draw and considering our offensive display throughout the game I said I'd take the draw during.
His game IS more than goals and shots.
Unfortunately none of those extra parts of his game came into play against Chelsea. There was no true hold up play. He could barely lose his man and defensively he wasn't as monstrous as previous games.
We'll chalk this one up to just one of those bad days at the office for him.
I'm sure we as a team won't be so negative againt Woolwich and they don't have anyone on Kantes level to shut him up for 90 minutes. So we should see a better performance.