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I hear all that, B-C, and I largely agree.
But 17 is young ,both physically and emotionally. And some youngsters have the mentality to get their heads down and graft on loan (eg Kane, Skipp), and some find it more challenging (eg Edwards).
I'm probably being optimistic, but I would rather we kept Scarlett for a year to get him stronger & fitter, hoping that Nuno does give him meaningful minutes. I know Fabio Silva joined Wolves for big money, but he was 17 last season, and according to wiki he played in 37 games (incl sub appearances) in alll competitions.
Tanganga's comments suggest Scarlett is popular and the other players want to help him develop:
“If everything goes well and he keeps working hard and remains focused and grounded then he will go to the top, because he’s a phenomenal player and I think all the players around him know that and are going to try to help him.”
Even if we get a striker like Ings we would get alot of minutes I feel
Fabio Silva got more game time than he deserved due to Jimenez injury. With that in mind, I don't think in normal circumstances, Nuno would give Fabio Silva or Dane Scarlett that much game time. If Ings signs, there would be very little room for Dane Scarlett, beside an injury crisis.Fabio Silva was 17, same age as Dane Scarlett now, last season at Wolves. If the linked stats are correct, Silva started 15 games and came on a sub in another 21 across all competitions.
If Nuno is prepared to give Scarlett anywhere near that level of first team involvement, then I'd say keep him with the famous Spurs this season.
Plus what's the point of having world class training facilities & (allegedly) sports scientists, if we don't use that expertise to develop a 17-year-old boy into a man capable of competing physically in the PL.
There is no way Scarlett would get the same level of support in his physical development if we loan him out to some lower league outfit. And there's also a risk he'd be overplayed, or encouraged to play through injuries, and we know the long term impact that has had on other teenage prodigies.
Fabio Silva | Football Stats | Wolves U21 | Age 18 | Soccer Base
Dane is still only 17 and technically in school. I think that it could be worth it to keep him around until the January window since I do think that he could get some minutes in the ECL and the cups depending on the draw. And then we could look at loaning him out in January to finish up the season.Fabio Silva got more game time than he deserved due to Jimenez injury. With that in mind, I don't think in normal circumstances, Nuno would give Fabio Silva or Dane Scarlett that much game time. If Ings signs, there would be very little room for Dane Scarlett, beside an injury crisis.
Things can go ugly during loan, but it doesn't stop some youngster to gain needed experience, and help them with solid career afterward. Training, doing gym work is one thing; playing men football to earn experience is also vital. Teammates can't get as nasty and dirty as what opposition would try everything.
Fabio Silva was 17, same age as Dane Scarlett now, last season at Wolves. If the linked stats are correct, Silva started 15 games and came on a sub in another 21 across all competitions.
If Nuno is prepared to give Scarlett anywhere near that level of first team involvement, then I'd say keep him with the famous Spurs this season.
Plus what's the point of having world class training facilities & (allegedly) sports scientists, if we don't use that expertise to develop a 17-year-old boy into a man capable of competing physically in the PL.
There is no way Scarlett would get the same level of support in his physical development if we loan him out to some lower league outfit. And there's also a risk he'd be overplayed, or encouraged to play through injuries, and we know the long term impact that has had on other teenage prodigies.
Fabio Silva | Football Stats | Wolves U21 | Age 18 | Soccer Base
He gets nowhere near that i would imagine if Wolves don’t sell Jota and Jiminez does not get injured. If we sell Kane and Son gets injured I suspect we will run the poor sod into the ground, unless we replace our big two unlike WolvesFabio Silva got more game time than he deserved due to Jimenez injury. With that in mind, I don't think in normal circumstances, Nuno would give Fabio Silva or Dane Scarlett that much game time. If Ings signs, there would be very little room for Dane Scarlett, beside an injury crisis.
Things can go ugly during loan, but it doesn't stop some youngster to gain needed experience, and help them with solid career afterward. Training, doing gym work is one thing; playing men football to earn experience is also vital. Teammates can't get as nasty and dirty as what opposition would try everything.
if hes even half the quality he will be good one thing in his favour is his pace which kane has always lackedGod I hope this boy is the real deal and is hell bent on breaking Kanes Spurs and England's numbers how hillarous would that be for all the fans who hate Kane just because he is spurs.
With injuries Wolves didn’t have much choice though.Fabio Silva was 17, same age as Dane Scarlett now, last season at Wolves. If the linked stats are correct, Silva started 15 games and came on a sub in another 21 across all competitions.
If Nuno is prepared to give Scarlett anywhere near that level of first team involvement, then I'd say keep him with the famous Spurs this season.
Plus what's the point of having world class training facilities & (allegedly) sports scientists, if we don't use that expertise to develop a 17-year-old boy into a man capable of competing physically in the PL.
There is no way Scarlett would get the same level of support in his physical development if we loan him out to some lower league outfit. And there's also a risk he'd be overplayed, or encouraged to play through injuries, and we know the long term impact that has had on other teenage prodigies.
Fabio Silva | Football Stats | Wolves U21 | Age 18 | Soccer Base
He won at least 2 physical battles last night and didn't waste the possession.
Dane is still only 17 and technically in school. I think that it could be worth it to keep him around until the January window since I do think that he could get some minutes in the ECL and the cups depending on the draw. And then we could look at loaning him out in January to finish up the season.
If school is an issue then we should look at loaning him to a London club like Orient or similar I guess.
And next season he should get a full season on loan unless he really impresses.