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Ex-Spurs Player Danny Rose

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I already made fun of you for taking stats based off one game. Here are the passing stats from a whole season.

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Only stating facts. You cant actually argue with that can you? Claiming I know nothing about the game that I predicted...I predicted what would happen. Specifically stated who would be under pressure and demoralized.

You claiming Rose is amazing after a loss and a draw is fitting. Even talking about MOTM for a friken draw speaks volumes.

Doing victory laps for losses and draws is what Rose brings to a back line. Frank Bruno lovable losers complex.

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I have never despised a poster on here - but this gooner cunt is something special

How he hasn't been binned yet is beyond me
 
It is tedious only if you are in the Rose is a defender camp and watch him jogging around while they work the ball past him that led to Jan getting pulled out of position to lose 2 points. Nobody even mentioned the goal in the Rose thread and it came through his side? If that was Davies derpring around there would be a witch hunt. Our wings were a mess. Especially when they brought on Townsend. Who did a rolly polly in our own box just before Rose inexplicably pushed someone in the box seconds later.

Rose is so mental he injured himself. Screaming at the ref flapping around. You want that maniac in defense? He needs to be creating chaos in their box, not ours.

What is tedious is people IGNORING THAT ROSE DID NOTHING TO DEFEND HIS PATCH FOR THE GOAL. His style of play had us on the back foot. Crossing to them, passing was beyond predicatble and risky.

We are much MUCH more solid at the back without Rose there. It's obvious. Monaco are not Man City and we made them look like they were. If you are sliding in for a last ditch tackle: That makes you a good defender? Nope. If you find yourself one on one, it means your shape is fucked.
What is certain, is that he saved us the point we had. I can't fathom why you can't (or won't) see that unless you have an agenda.
 
Literally the ramblings of a moron and a madman. I find it baffling that someone so intent on being part of football forums, knows so little about football.
 
Gibbsy;

Wiki poses a great question there which remains unanswered. Why on Gods green earth would you advocate Rose as a winger if he can't shoot, can't pass & can't cross? Surely these are quite important attributes for such a player? What possible good could come from playing someone who can't score or create scoring chances, in a role that demands those abilities? I really don't get what value such a player would add to the team. You are sounding like a madman

Because he is a freak athlete that improved a massive amount in one season. Going from one of the worst to one of the best is worth investing time in.

But he still has that early season streak in him. It can still go either way. He is single hsndeldy capable of losing points for us.

Plus it's fucking obvious Davies is a better fit for Eriksen and jan. I mean laugh away but I said Jan would have a face like a smacked arse with how Rose fucks up our flanks flow.

And here we are. You fainting with horror at my suggestions are being faux drama queens. The worse our back line and communication looks when he plays, the louder you all seem to get.
 
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Because he is a freak athlete that improved a massive amount in one season. Going from one of the worst to one of the best is worth investing time in.

But he still has that early season streak in him. It can still go either way. He is single hsndeldy capable of losing points for us.

Plus it's fucking obvious Davies is a better fit for Eriksen and jan. I mean laugh away but I said Jan would have active like a smacked arse with how Rose fucks up our flanks flow.

And here we are. You fainting with horror at my suggestions are being faux drama queens. The worse our back line and communication looks when he plays, the louder you all seem to get.

Could you highlight some specific examples of Davies being an A+ communicator with Jan as compared to Rose? I'd like to see exactly what makes you say things like that.
 
Because he is a freak athlete that improved a massive amount in one season. Going from one of the worst to one of the best is worth investing time in.

But he still has that early season streak in him. It can still go either way. He is single hsndeldy capable of losing points for us.

Plus it's fucking obvious Davies is a better fit for Eriksen and jan. I mean laugh away but I said Jan would have active like a smacked arse with how Rose fucks up our flanks flow.

And here we are. You fainting with horror at my suggestions are being faux drama queens. The worse our back line and communication looks when he plays, the louder you all seem to get.
What a total load of bollocks. From your OWN stats which are meant to prove your argument it shows that Rose scores more, assists more, makes more tackles & interceptions, & also wins more duels. He makes more key passes. And you maintain that Davies' 1% higher pass completion conclusively shows Davies to be the better player... Don't get me wrong, I think Davies is a fine player, but your anti Rose blabbering is without any merit at all & has become fanatical. Nobody is "fainting with horror". People are just baffled that you see things the way you do & how you can put forward a set of stats that defeat your whole argument whilst maintaining that it somehow proves your point.
 
What a total load of bollocks. From your OWN stats which are meant to prove your argument it shows that Rose scores more, assists more, makes more tackles & interceptions, & also wins more duels. He makes more key passes. And you maintain that Davies' 1% higher pass completion conclusively shows Davies to be the better player... Don't get me wrong, I think Davies is a fine player, but your anti Rose blabbering is without any merit at all & has become fanatical. Nobody is "fainting with horror". People are just baffled that you see things the way you do & how you can put forward a set of stats that defeat your whole argument whilst maintaining that it somehow proves your point.

You can't see the big picture. Games are not won on individuals stats.

His stats just showed how snowed in he is. He can't shovel himself out.

Look at Chelsea or Man city defenders stats. They probably make two thirds of the attempted tackes rose makes. Because they don't have a random pass cannon putting them under pressure. Crosses find theit man (so they are not instantly put into reverse to make yet another tackle), long balls are clever and they clear when it needs clearing. The most important thing is their passing out of defense plays to the midfielders game and gives them a platform to perform with.

Look at the platform Rose gave our best player. Eriksen. He played like a fucking sloth because he had remedial runs off him, passing and buildup. Eriksen can make runs and give and go's all fucking day. Rose is not going to spot it.

Davies knows better. He knows how to build from the back. He knows give it to the smart guy asap. So it's slid to Alli or Eriksen because Davies has his HEAD UP

You basic individualist entertainment junkies want Rose the zig zag 80 yards and do a overhead kick into the path of a Ginola back heel into the net.

Davies has his head up and drills it to Alli, Mason or Kane before you have even registered a pass.

You see the special one make that clapping pushing movement all the time and that is what he demands when he does it. Bam bam bam pass it while the op players take a breather.

Rose does a Rambo movie in his own half. Fighting, 50/50, jersey in hand, shouting at ref, puffing his chest and doing the big bollocks walk when the ref blows up for another foul. That is how shit teams beat us. There is a Rose mini drama that lasts 20 seconds. Plenty of time to park the bus.
 
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Why so

Why? I'm genuinely interested. Does it offend your sensibilities? If you love Rose, get involved. If you don't, don't bleat man.
A dozen pages of the same thing over and over again. I have gotten involved. I give my opinion and I genuinely enjoy reading others. But this has been overkill and mind numbingly repetitive. I get it Gibbs and Wiki have different opinions. Why not just accept that at this point?
 
Because they don't? Stop reading if you've had enough - that's pretty Russian is what you've suggested there. This is a forum that allows free speech. Don't need none of your fucked up freedom shit. Jeez.
Yes. And I have the freedom of speech to say that it is boring. And aren't you doing the exact same thing right now? A little Putin telling me what to post. Ehh, comrade?
 
There was no input. I objected to you bothering to make a post complaining about a thread. Now you're all upset. Sorry it didn't rise to your lofty expectations. Surely you've realised by now that most of us are thick?
Not sure what you're saying exactly. But I don't think most people here are thick at all. Certainly not you.

Your input I referred to was me butting out of this thread. Seems sound advice. But fuck. Here I am posting in it again.

But honestly, I don't want to take this thread off topic. I do love Danny Rose. His thread is worth more than our meta squabble, I think.
 
What a total load of bollocks. From your OWN stats which are meant to prove your argument it shows that Rose scores more, assists more,..

Plays more games....

I explained why he makes more tackles per game.

He is like Townsend. When you cross to the op, fire the ball like a bullet at the receiver making it difficult to control or tap the ball out to touch for no reason: you make more tackles. His throwins alone are risky.

You don't get it. Making a lot of tackles??? That means HE IS UNDER PRESSURE. SELF INFLICTED.

Managers TARGET OUR WEAK FLANKS. Managers see Townsend and Rose, or Eriksen and Rose and know that is a perfect mix of soft and crazy to take advantage of.

All calling me clueless and you KNOW we get done down the flanks with Rose. Half the time because he's not in the back 4. Wide open.

You really don't get the patterns like I do. The eye catching shit is entertaining but it's not effective. Rose was in the back 4 during our constant cricket scores getting seriously dominated by the top 4.

You saw it when Townsend came on. It's my mantra. I can literally play a video and you won't see it. You refuse to acknowledge Rose switched off mentally. You watch as he moves backwards. Does not press like defenders should. Hell even Kane knows he had to press. Even lost causes like pressuring the keeper on a back pass.

I tell you how it goes down before s goal is kicked. Specifically say who will get beat due to lack of off the ball cover. Toby. I tell you why. Eriksen does not cover. I tell you Jan's expression.

BEFORE THE GAME.

What are we doing right now? What just happened? We lost points down his flank. He didn't press and keystone cops happened. Poor Jan's stomach dropped as he had to fly into walkabout Roses position to stop the cross.

Thank you Lamela. Despite being a nailed on free role player you pressed in our own box, and distributed the ball beautifully to create and finish a sweeping move.

It's the Danny Roses of the team that makes it more risky to play Lamela. Lamela despite being stronger in the tackle than usual recently is still very easy to get past in the prem. Eriksen and Lamela in the same team is risky. It's made even more risky when Jekyll and Hyde Rose is either crushing it or drifting into space.

He hampers players like Lamela, Eriksen and other diminutive players like Prichard and Caroll because cart horse teams can easily deal with Roses crossing and shit through balls and all it takes are a few free kicks snd corners to stuff us in the air.

We can lose to ANYONE with the shambles of a left wing. How Poch thought bringing on Townsend was a good idea...to further tell my fan club that I am right about what fucked this club up as to being a true power?

Well now you all know. We changed the back line and now it's very, very hard to beat us.

No Rose, Lennon, Townsend and Soldado and we HUMILIATED MANCHESTER CITY.

But like I said: You prefer individual entertainment over a team player. Clapping with mouths agape as Rose bravley fights on after shooting himself in the foot. Bandaged up after injuring himself, sliding into a tackle as we are opened up easier than a packet of crisps you cheer the man.

That's why I am different: I ask the question why are we opened up so easily? While you cream over yet another last ditch sliding tackle. I'm asking why are we so wide open in the first place?

Think about it.

Respect what Davies does. be afraid of why Rose is making so many tackles. He should be putting the fear of God into the oppositions box. Not in ours.
 
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