Director of Football?

[Smoked Salmon]

Levy is already essentially DOF, but without any actual specialist knowledge of football.

Someone signed Vertonghen this summer and had been tracking him for over a year, it wasn't Redknapp, it wasn't AVB....

Was it Doris the tea lady?

 

[sammyspurs]

Chris the Cabbie?

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Peter the Pie boy?

 

[Tucker]

Come on guys it was this fella....

 

[Smoked Salmon]

Come on guys it was this fella....

[ Image ]

Ian the Image?

 

[sammyspurs]

?

 

[Cripps14]

Come on, we all know it was clearly @AgentITK who made this deal happen.

 

[Raitei]

Now looking at Txiki Begiristain for the Technical director role apparently....
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/st ... MP=OTC-RSS

 

[tricky]

I think it depends on the personnel, and their working relationship more than either system per se.

Exactly.

There is a lot of bed wetting going on as soon as dof is mentioned, which is really frustrating.

ANY management set up can be wildly successful if the people within it are compatible, just as ANY management set up can fail if they are not.

IMO the dof set up is a good one, in that the coach gets to focus on the team performing almost exclusively, while someone with connections can scout players with the same level of involvement.

I read that in Lister's voice and it didn't work.

Did you run out of phlegm half way through?

 

[tricky]

Definately agree with those saying that if it is done right then there's no reason to try the DOF system again. I've often seen the "European doesn't always work here" argument, but nobody who ever makes that argument seems to be able to substantiate it with an explanation of why it doesn't work. Like the others, I say that if you have a good management team who can work well together then there is not reason it shouldn't work. I think the reluctance in English football is simply a hangover from the fact that most Britsh managers are old school and want to have complete control over everything.

I think it is a lot simpler than that:

Stupid people are resistant to and fear change of any sort.

And yes I am having an antagonistic day today it would seem, think having John terry splattered across beeb has riled me

 

[Blanchflower]

Are we sure this isn't a replacement for Tim Sherwood rather than a new DoF role?

If / when Steve Kean goes he's on their list to replace him apparently.

 

[yiddo2786]

Exactly.

There is a lot of bed wetting going on as soon as dof is mentioned, which is really frustrating.

ANY management set up can be wildly successful if the people within it are compatible, just as ANY management set up can fail if they are not.

IMO the dof set up is a good one, in that the coach gets to focus on the team performing almost exclusively, while someone with connections can scout players with the same level of involvement.

I read that in Lister's voice and it didn't work.

Did you run out of phlegm half way through?

Kryten you're a total gooooooseberry.

 

[Éperons]

I'm still roaringly tumescent off the latest Football Manager podcast. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the DoF (both in-game and in general) check this podcast out. Joining Miles and the other dude from SI are a journalist from Norway, Lars Siversten (who manages not to speak like a Northerner, Kalyl ), and the devil himself, Damien Comolli. It's brilliant.

TL;DR/L: The DoF is a response to the idea of a club as a "project", not just something that moves from year to year with no overarching plan or idea. Comolli also points out that every club that won a medal last year in England (or won promotion to the PL) uses a DoF. The title might be different, and the responsibilities certainly vary, but there's someone in place who is less volatile than the manager (who averages 18 mos in his post).

 

[spooky]

I was just about to post a heads up about that. Downloaded, will listen to it this evening.

 

[Éperons]

There're two great stories about Bale and Berba, too, that indicate how we needed a DoF at the time in order to sign both players.

 

[Stanners]

I'm still roaringly tumescent off the latest Football Manager podcast. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the DoF (both in-game and in general) check this podcast out. Joining Miles and the other dude from SI are a journalist from Norway, Lars Siversten (who manages not to speak like a Northerner, Kalyl ), and the devil himself, Damien Comolli. It's brilliant.

TL;DR/L: The DoF is a response to the idea of a club as a "project", not just something that moves from year to year with no overarching plan or idea. Comolli also points out that every club that won a medal last year in England (or won promotion to the PL) uses a DoF. The title might be different, and the responsibilities certainly vary, but there's someone in place who is less volatile than the manager (who averages 18 mos in his post).

Don't currently play Football Manager and have never downloaded that pod before but gave it a listen, quite interesting stuff. Cheers for posting.

 

[Kalyl]

I'm still roaringly tumescent off the latest Football Manager podcast. I strongly recommend anyone interested in the DoF (both in-game and in general) check this podcast out. Joining Miles and the other dude from SI are a journalist from Norway, Lars Siversten (who manages not to speak like a Northerner, Kalyl ), and the devil himself, Damien Comolli. It's brilliant.

TL;DR/L: The DoF is a response to the idea of a club as a "project", not just something that moves from year to year with no overarching plan or idea. Comolli also points out that every club that won a medal last year in England (or won promotion to the PL) uses a DoF. The title might be different, and the responsibilities certainly vary, but there's someone in place who is less volatile than the manager (who averages 18 mos in his post).

 

[Éperons]

At the end, Comolli (who has some occasional scouse echo in his French accent, I think?) is asked to name the two players he signed that he's most proud of. So he arrogantly (love it) picks the two players over whom at the time he got the most grief.

No one thought to ask him if Dalglish smells in person, though. :bae:

 

[Blanchflower]

I liked it when he paid millions for a 33 year old slow brazilian left back when he was available for free months later....

 

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

Our biggest and most important signing has to be a director of football.

We dont just need 3 or 4 players. We need about 12. We simply have no depth.

We also cant keep shelling out 50m a player. We need to find these people before they become too expensive.