Enough is enough now most of us have tipped over the edge
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It’s strange because the Levy fans keeps telling us that they’re the majority? Yet most fans I speak to ( and yes there’s a lot of them are agreeing Levy is a cunt who needs to go!) ……..
I’d probably be accused of being in this fan club, but in reality think Levy has done well for us overall, but has fucked up plenty too.
Watched on telly today on a plane and just settled somewhere nice and sunny, hence not on here earlier to take in all the negative stuff.
Just really wanted to say I don’t care who owns our club. Could be a genocidal maniac for all I care, as long as they have the good of the club at heart (for whatever reason) and I think Levy does. That reason may be a larger selling price, but still a good reason.
What I will say is we got thoroughly outplayed today by a squad of players, none of which would get near our squad and outthought by a manager I don’t think could hang the goal nets for a Conte practice session.
We can put some blame on to Levy and ENIC for many things, but not for losing like we did against a far inferior squad and manager. That rests with the players and manager.
He's burning through that credit very quickly though
He will be very hard to shift now.
What I do think is that without protests nothing will change.
The hiring of Nuno and then about turn for Conte should inform anyone in doubt.
Keep singing ENIC out and they will have to invest more money or sell to someone who will.
It is now necessary.
Levy has skin thicker than a rhino.
Agree. What other PL club failed to field a single attacking player on their bench this weekend? Just us? Could be a PL first, trophy for the cabinet?
Do you go every week? Do you travel abroad when we’re in Europe? How long for , how many times? Please enlighten me a s you are THE fan! I’ve beefed through out the ENIC years and ive finally come to my senses that they are liars and fraudulent. Good luck and enjoy the success of the new builds……There's more to following a club than posting on a message board.
But yeah, die hard fan you are. Tottenham til you die.
You are correct, in that performance levels of late, can be attributed to both players and the manager.
But unfortunately, the fanbase at large has now had enough, and it looks like it is going to get very ugly for the board and a lot of it is warranted.
These managers, keep coming in and ask for backing, but then the same political, internal problems seem to surface via media outlets and or manager comments.
There can be no smoke without fire, they have had their time, but it is also time they moved over for someone else to take it forward.
Everything is in place to do that, but instead are held back by a lack of ambition and vision
Okay, but without all of this investment the club could and probably would be in a far worse place especially with the way owners have come into the Premier League since 2005. I guess investment is the way they have built the club up to where it is now which is no doubt a massive improvement from when they took over.
You can say Investment is how ENIC have done it, but the way they have run the club has kept the club competing for a long period of time in a time where a lot of owners in other clubs have or are failing massively.
Is West Ham, Everton, Leeds, Newcastle (over the years) and I don't know how many other clubs really better than what ENIC is now or has been?
Follow this link and look at the incoming and outgoing transfers from the beginning of the 2001 / 02 season starting with a 35 year old Teddy Sheringham on a free.
ENIC have never invested their own money into buying players for Spurs.
They use sponsorship, advertising, TV revenue, revenue that the supporters create and any other income to enable their project.
They use other peoples money, pay themselves the biggest salaries in the league and charge the most expensive ticket prices in the league.
If they sold the club tomorrow they would make a huge profit on their initial investment.
Spurs have won as much as Birmingham City while this project has been implemented.
What would ENIC have to do before you got angry enough to demand their removal?
Read it and weep.
ENIC have never invested their own money into buying players for Spurs.
They use sponsorship, advertising, TV revenue, revenue that the supporters create and any other income to enable their project.
They use other peoples money, pay themselves the biggest salaries in the league and charge the most expensive ticket prices in the league.
If they sold the club tomorrow they would make a huge profit on their initial investment.
Spurs have won as much as Birmingham City while this project has been implemented.
What would ENIC have to do before you got angry enough to demand their removal?
Read it and weep.
Strange choice of pic in the tweet.
Levy and his mates is quite a cute picture
come on though, Kulusevski, Lucas and Richarlison are are injured. That's not really fair.
A picture from the days of Covid...
You've explained ENIC's business model... how is that any different to how other owners choose to run their club?
Would you be happy with West Hams model? Everton's model? Aston Villa's model?
Is ENIC's business model better than Everton's who for example are in the process of building a new stadium whilst being under some sort of investigation?
Would you rather ENIC ran the club so poorly that we ended up in League 1 like however many ex Premier League clubs are?
How many other clubs win major trophies on a consistent basis apart from the obvious ones?
What people don't realise is that Enic are more property developers and landlords than football club owners now.
All off the back of borrowing on the strength of Tottenham Hotspur and us.
The banks knew enough mugs would keep turning up and paying the highest ticket prices in world football. So they lent the money. Enic and levy bought vast swathes of land on our backs and it doesn't really matter if we are a success on the pitch now. If they sold the club for 4 billion it would be pure profit and they'd still have the same again in land ownership. Which is Tavistock owned.
Said this 5 years ago. Said it 10 years ago and on this site. The stadium build was a disaster under any terms. It doubled in price and was delivered 2 years late. Any ceo would have been sacked for wasting money under a plc. But of course this isn't a plc. Its a piggy bank for Enic to profit off and borrow off from our name and the poor folk who still believe.
But don't forget.... Teflon was a genius because he bought some cranes....
All off the back of borrowing on the strength of Tottenham Hotspur and us.
The banks knew enough mugs would keep turning up and paying the highest ticket prices in world football. So they lent the money. Enic and levy bought vast swathes of land on our backs and it doesn't really matter if we are a success on the pitch now. If they sold the club for 4 billion it would be pure profit and they'd still have the same again in land ownership. Which is Tavistock owned.
Said this 5 years ago. Said it 10 years ago and on this site. The stadium build was a disaster under any terms. It doubled in price and was delivered 2 years late. Any ceo would have been sacked for wasting money under a plc. But of course this isn't a plc. Its a piggy bank for Enic to profit off and borrow off from our name and the poor folk who still believe.
But don't forget.... Teflon was a genius because he bought some cranes....
We used to be an obvious one
Would you be happy with West Hams model? Everton's model? Aston Villa's model?
We have that model so your question is rhetorical. However; I would be happy if ENIC fucked off to one of those clubs, with their small time mentality, and sold the club we all love to someone whose ambitions match up with the expectations of a truly great English club like THFC.
Everton and Villa are historically great clubs but their location has not helped their cause as the Premier League has progressed; regarding attracting and retaining ambitious players from abroad. Spurs do not have this issue.
Is ENIC's business model better than Everton's who for example are in the process of building a new stadium whilst being under some sort of investigation?
It's the same model but Spurs would find it easier to sign ambitious players from abroad, Everton were interested in, due to the London location. Everton are the financially poorest of the biggest clubs in the North West behind United, City and Liverpool. That is the main reason they struggle to attract or retain the best players.
Would you rather ENIC ran the club so poorly that we ended up in League 1 like however many ex Premier League clubs are?
I want Spurs to be the best that we can be.
I believe Spurs can do better than ENIC.
If relegation finally got rid of ENIC I'd consider it after twenty years.
How many other clubs win major trophies on a consistent basis apart from the obvious ones?
The obvious ones these days include Manchester City and Chelsea who both regularly experienced what you described above until a serious owner invested in them. Both clubs were a bit of a joke before they were taken over.
I Support THFC; not ENIC
How about you?
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