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Can go towards the fee for Rodrygo that we'll pretend to offer
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Can go towards the fee for Rodrygo that we'll pretend to offer
Yep
You really haven't been paying attention
I don’t think he really cares what the fans think but this net spend and spending in football being out of control speel is def a self preservation excuse and something to keep at least some of the fan base happy imo.
Vinai coming in and this new pr ‘transparency’ over the last few weeks is a clear indication to me that the image of the chairman and club has been thought about more.
As we have all discussed for years on here it doesn’t matter if you pay 50 million for a player in their early 20’s if you pay them less than 100k a week - that is not going to push the needle for us at all. The best teams and biggest clubs pay higher wages which cost more than the transfer fees by themselves over a long period and that is something we will never ever do with him in charge.
Net spend is a load of bollocks when it comes to spurs - our wage ratio is very much the issue with our recruitment.
New hotel mezzanine incoming whilst we sit 14th in the PL and have failed to win a single game in the CL...
Waiting for psr and spending to be enforced and thinking there will be some kind out level playing field
He might be waiting for a while
He might be waiting for a while
It’s a line - always has been.
Does anyone in their right mind think the city’s and Chelsea’s of this world are just going to be reprimanded and start having to gut squads or stop the spending?
Not a fucking chance any of them cunts pay the piper whatsoever.
We are not even standing still atm, compare our squad of a few years ago to what we have now.
We are as far away from being a regular top 4 team as before Poch landed and this cunt has the brass neck to talk about winning titles and champions leagues? lol what a joke
Eventually poor recruitment catches up with you
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Daniel Levy on The Overlap
We have been encouraging the Club to communicate more openly with supporters for many years. It’s important that we get to hear from the relevant personnel on a range of issues, and that we don’t rely on the first team manager to try and explain the Club’s direction. For example, leaving Ryan Mason to explain the Club’s catastrophic decision to join a breakaway European Super League, was completely unacceptable. Since then we have welcomed the set piece events such as the introduction of the end of transfer window wrap, and the in-person fan forums. But these are merely a starting point.
In our meetings with Vinai Venkatesham, we have encouraged him to set up more of these statements and interviews, and we are pleased to see that both he and Daniel Levy are sharing more information. It’s very early days but there are some encouraging signs. Timely communication, on the right issues, coming from the right people, is key.
This episode of The Overlap in which Daniel Levy is interviewed by Gary Neville, provides another opportunity to understand the direction Levy sets. In this interview, we may not, in fact we definitely do not, agree with everything that was said, in particular Daniel’s continued opposition to a football regulator (although there is an acceptance that this is a structure with which he must now work) and it will not benefit fans. This is not the view of the fans, with practically all organised supporter groups, including THST, having lobbied government and campaigned for the establishment of the IFR to ensure legally required structures for fan engagement are in place and meaningfully used.
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Daniel Levy on The Overlap
We have been encouraging the Club to communicate more openly with supporters for many years. It’s important that we get to hear from the relevant personnel on a range of issues, and that we don’t rely on the first team manager to try and explain the Club’s direction. For example, leaving Ryan Mason to explain the Club’s catastrophic decision to join a breakaway European Super League, was completely unacceptable. Since then we have welcomed the set piece events such as the introduction of the end of transfer window wrap, and the in-person fan forums. But these are merely a starting point.
In our meetings with Vinai Venkatesham, we have encouraged him to set up more of these statements and interviews, and we are pleased to see that both he and Daniel Levy are sharing more information. It’s very early days but there are some encouraging signs. Timely communication, on the right issues, coming from the right people, is key.
This episode of The Overlap in which Daniel Levy is interviewed by Gary Neville, provides another opportunity to understand the direction Levy sets. In this interview, we may not, in fact we definitely do not, agree with everything that was said, in particular Daniel’s continued opposition to a football regulator (although there is an acceptance that this is a structure with which he must now work) and it will not benefit fans. This is not the view of the fans, with practically all organised supporter groups, including THST, having lobbied government and campaigned for the establishment of the IFR to ensure legally required structures for fan engagement are in place and meaningfully used.
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Where did you get that info from?
From his arse.
Levy thinking we'll appreciate him when he's finally gone.
I mean, you say that, but when I was a kid in the 80's I remember hearing about the 'glory glory nights' in Europe.
I had videos and books about it.
Now I am certainly not suggesting that Levy & Co have brought us regular European football because of that - but if you are talking about history and traditions.... European football is what I was encouraged to dream about, and I have been lucky enough to watch us compete in European tournaments nearly every year for what, 15+ years now?, win one, get to the final in another one.
Levy & Co didn't kill the romance of the FA cup - that was the Premier League.
So much of what you attribute to our owners, I attribute to modern-day football in general, and you can go find fans from every team that say the same as you - how their club has changed (especially when they have had a below par season) etc etc.....
And look, you can feel aggrieved - you very very clearly do and you are almost sure to make it known how aggrieved multiple times a day in almost exactly the same way - i'm not sure why exactly as it literally does nothing to change anything at all....
I'm happier not because I 'have what I want' I'm just choosing to support the team in a way that doesn't wind myself up, no point in getting annoyed by something I have zero control over.
I don’t think anybody is asking the the club to be reckless
But we not so risk adverse either
There must be somewhere in between
But we not so risk adverse either
There must be somewhere in between
I never said Levy killed the FA cup in my opinion Ferguson and United hammered the final nail in when they pulled out of it for the club World Cup . My point was when we were winning it regularly it was only slightly less prestigious than the league . Regularly winning the FA cup at one time meant your club was competitive for a very valuable trophy . Virtually the whole country used to watch the build up from 9.00 am until a good hour post match it was that significant .
Therefore I am not inclined to let someone ( not you ) disparage those achievements on the basis of the FA cups Importance or lack thereof in 2025 . We were a more elite club at that time because of those victories than revisionism based on 2025 relevance of those trophies might lead some to believe . The same applies with the UEFA Cup and for that matter Cup Winners Cup. With only the league winners qualifying for the European Cup many of Europes now super elite clubs were involved . The only thing being that those now super elite clubs were nowhere near as far ahead of everyone else as they are today . Plus some clubs like Chelsea and City were a total irrelevance back then .
Sky and the CL should not be allowed to diminish the value of trophies earned long before they existed .
Edit : should have read elite English club
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Yup.
FA Cup haters are just like Europa League haters. They are artless, they have forsaken the true spirit of football.
Well no one ever mentioned wage ratio 18 months ago, so it's easy to cynically just see it as the newest stick in the ENICout kit bag, now that net spend is up has been thoroughly eradicated.
A low wage:revenue is part and parcel to how Spurs are building this squad, similar to 2013-15. Moving out older, higher wage players and moving in younger players with potential. If we were already spending 60% on wages, when it came time to give VDV an increase to keep him we'd not have the funds to do so.
Again, no one was complaining about wage:revenue when Dier, Ndombele, etc. Were clogging up the wage bill - would you rather have that?
And none of this is to say we shouldn't spend more, we do. My only point in engaging in this discussion is that its preposterous that Levy makes financial decisions as Chairman to please supporters, or goes to lengths to obfuscate information to dupe supporters. Its wildly narcissistic - Daniel Levy and ENIC don't care about you, me, or anyone here.
They own a football club, they have a theory on how best to run that football club in the context of how much money they have and how much money their competitors have. That's it. They don't spend a second thinking about how it makes you or I feel.
There's certainly no "self-preservation" aspect to it. Levy doesn't answer to supporters, they only think he does. He answers to Lewis, and Lewis only sees Spurs as an appreciating asset. So long as the value climbs at a certain rate, he's content. Probably doesn't know we won a cup.
We were dead last in Europe in wages to revenue ratio then too.
Deloitte has compiled those wages to revenue ratio figures for every season since 2017-18 and Spurs have been dead last every single time.
I'm sorry it's tiring to always have these kinds of claims thrown back in your and your fellow "I'm sick of all the Levy whining" poster's faces, but the reality is your entire line of argument ALWAYS, without fail, attempts to obfuscate and dance around the plain, objective facts of the matter.
For the sake of advancing the discussion though, I think it's worth noting what it would mean if we WEREN'T dead last in Europe in wages to revenue ratio, and those wages were going to bad players.
It would mean the thing that every Levybot craves: THAT THE FINGER SHOULD BE POINTED SOMEWHERE ELSE
Every manager and technical director that has ever worked under ENIC has been forced to work in unfair conditions with unreasonable expectations, which is the central, unavoidable truth beneath all of their failures.
Provide them with appropriate resources for the expectation level and that totally changes!
I'm not cynically saying anything about wage ratio - merely stating a fact that we never have and don't currently pay top level wages but we should be to get closer to our rivals and give ourselves at least a chance of a competitive squad in the prem. Instead we have cut the wage bill by a ridiculous amount the last couple of years and have bought fuck all experienced quality - only youth with upturn. I am all for building a good young squad but we all know theres no success for us with this project yet again. We don't have the ambition to change things up and go big even for a few key areas. Levy didn't even do this when we were so close to actually winning the league leaving our bench woefully short when Poch was here.
We charge top level prices and have the income of a top 10 club in europe yet here we are looking to get some loans in - its disgraceful.
And I'm sorry but I completely disagree on them not spending a second thinking about the fanbase. Why do you think Venkatesham was appointed? To tend to the relationship between board, owners and fans which is exactly what every gooner has ever said he did so well down the road. Surely his appointment and these interviews with Levy are proof of trying to keep the masses towing the line and stopping protests and anti Levy sentiment.
Getting the gates reinstated, a mural of Kane, the concrete from the old stadium etc - all of these things are done by the club to keep the fans thinking we are all in it together and still Tottenham Hotspur football club when we are anything but. Why the fuck else would Levy do these things if he doesn't think for second about what we all think.
I used to be sceptical, but some posters have to be in the pay of the club. HAVE to be.
There just can't be any other explanation for some of the shilling I keep reading in this thread on a daily basis.
It's absolutely brazen
There just can't be any other explanation for some of the shilling I keep reading in this thread on a daily basis.
It's absolutely brazen
Been clear for a long time.