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Munn another bullshitting weasel! Olympics to NRL to some shit Aussie team to frigging the Chinese pretend league. Wtf!! We need actual football people not bullshitting liars with no fucking idea about the game, we already have levy to fill that role.

We are struggling with no ethos, no ideology, a bit part squad and lack of identity.

Wtf is this idiot going to do? Pretend he understands the game? Which sport? Pretend he knows how to make a league successful? (Er basketball or football in China) pretend he knows how to make a team successful in the premier league or Europe? This guy has absolutely no qualities required by this club currently - zero!

Levy is populating the club with little pricks who will bend over and do what he says, because we already know this guy can't improve our club in any way. He has neither the desire or inclination to stick around in the same sport let alone team. Another fucking terrible terrible terrible levy appointment. How long can this go on for.

Levy must go
 
Elias said:
I posted a potential way forward here:

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A coherent structure would involve ENIC hiring an experienced DoF to implement an agreed strategy - such as playing attacking, high tempo, football, signing talented players with clear potential to become top class (as per Modric, Bale, Berbatov, Eriksen, Verts, Walker) whilst giving opportunities to our most exceptional home grown Academy youngsters.
The DoF would then identify the best head coach to implement that strategy.
Once we hired a head coach who bought into the agreed plan, we would then seek to sign players to fit the tactical approach preferred by that coach.
Instead, we have Levy deciding to sign Maddison, without the involvement of a DoF or a head coach.
I note Conte allegedly turned down any move for Maddison because his system has no room for number 10s.
Whatever any of us think of Maddison as a player, there's no point signing him until we know the identity of our head coach & the system he wants to use.

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TBF, Conte fucking us out of a chance to sign Maddison should've triggered a dereliction of duty clause.

Agree with your thoughts, though I think the style has to come from the DOF. Managers come and go (some of their own accord), to truly develop players, especially through the youth academy, we have to have a framework of the way Spurs play football.

The nuance within that style is up to the head coach, for sure.

But, yeah, I'm ready to get back to that sort of setup. Hopefully, as you say, we'll sort out recruitment because we've blown a shedload on donkies over the past 5 years and it ruined what we had.
 
StevenPL said:
Munn another bullshitting weasel! Olympics to NRL to some shit Aussie team to frigging the Chinese pretend league. Wtf!! We need actual football people not bullshitting liars with no fucking idea about the game, we already have levy to fill that role.

We are struggling with no ethos, no ideology, a bit part squad and lack of identity.

Wtf is this idiot going to do? Pretend he understands the game? Which sport? Pretend he knows how to make a league successful? (Er basketball or football in China) pretend he knows how to make a team successful in the premier league or Europe? This guy has absolutely no qualities required by this club currently - zero!

Levy is populating the club with little pricks who will bend over and do what he says, because we already know this guy can't improve our club in any way. He has neither the desire or inclination to stick around in the same sport let alone team. Another fucking terrible terrible terrible levy appointment. How long can this go on for.

Levy must go
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MemphisWill said:
TBF, Conte fucking us out of a chance to sign Maddison should've triggered a dereliction of duty clause.

Agree with your thoughts, though I think the style has to come from the DOF. Managers come and go (some of their own accord), to truly develop players, especially through the youth academy, we have to have a framework of the way Spurs play football.

The nuance within that style is up to the head coach, for sure.

But, yeah, I'm ready to get back to that sort of setup. Hopefully, as you say, we'll sort out recruitment because we've blown a shedload on donkies over the past 5 years and it ruined what we had.
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I agree about Conte & Maddison, but similarly his owner at Inter bought him Eriksen (from us, with 6 months left on his Spurs contract).

Conte didn't want Eriksen &, like a petulant toddler, refused to play him for at least half a season.

As Mourinho said in the Amazon series to Erksen (I paraphrase from distant memory): "if you were a shit professional, your position [ie running down his Spurs contract] would be a problem. But you're a very good professional."

The Maddison & Eriksen examples show that a player can be top class and be left out in the cold by a stubborn head coach who doesn't want to accommodate the player's skillset into his tactical setup.
 
Elias said:
I agree about Conte & Maddison, but similarly his owner at Inter bought him Eriksen (from us, with 6 months left on his Spurs contract).

Conte didn't want Eriksen &, like a petulant toddler, refused to play him for at least half a season.

As Mourinho said in the Amazon series to Erksen (I paraphrase from distant memory): "if you were a shit professional, your position [ie running down his Spurs contract] would be a problem. But you're a very good professional."

The Maddison & Eriksen examples show that a player can be top class and be left out in the cold by a stubborn head coach who doesn't want to accommodate the player's skillset into his tactical setup.
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Which is why I generally hate name brand managers. They get obsessed with their style and no longer comprehend that the goal is to entertain the spectators and garner as many points as possible while doing so.
 
Cranston said:
So what does this new bald geezer know about football?

Genuine question. Any football experience or just the daft Australian stuff?
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He spent 9 years running City's Melbourne club. And was given the job to establish a club for them in China in 2019.

So even if he doesn't come from a playing background or has been a scout, he has worked in football for quite a long time now.
 
MemphisWill said:
Which is why I generally hate name brand managers. They get obsessed with their style and no longer comprehend that the goal is to entertain the spectators and garner as many points as possible while doing so.
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Yes, but there are also examples of owners obsessed with "iconic footballers".

Oil money bought PSG. Their owners then decided they wanted Mbappe, Neymar & Messi in the same team. On paper, a fantasy world class attacking trio.

But by this stage of his career, a team has to be built to carry Messi, to maximise his unique skillset, accepting he won't track back & press.

Argentina did this, & won the World Cup. And for me, Messi is the greatest player of all time, the one I've most enjoyed watching.

But PSG could not accommodate Messi, Neymar & Mbappe in the same team, & Poch inevitably got sacked.

So rather than, in your phrase, a "name brand manager" being inflexible, this was ownership wanting "world class brand footballers" without understanding the challenges this would pose for any head coach.

Ditto with Cristiano Ronaldo. He was persuaded by the likes of Ferguon, allegedly, not to sign for Shitty. So he ends up yanited, proves he's still an outstanding finisher, but neither Solkjaer nor ETH can find a way to accommodate an ageing Ronaldo, and his massive ego, in their team.

In short, the DoF and the head coach have to be on the same page, or it's not going to work. And this is true in all sports.

I enjoy watching NFL, and Titans' coach Mike Vrabel's reaction when his GM traded his best receiver (AJ 'Brown) against his wishes again emphasises the need for an agreed approach.
 
theathletic.com

Spurs fans survey: Only 8.6% of fans trust Daniel Levy with on-pitch matters

With so much uncertainty around Tottenham Hotspur, The Athletic asked fans for their views on some of the biggest issues around the club...
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There’s a huge amount going on at Tottenham Hotspur, with uncertainty surrounding the new head coach, the managing director of football and the general direction of the club.

We asked for your views on Spurs’ most pressing issues, and almost 4,000 of you responded.

It’s a considerable sample size, and highlights that Julian Nagelsmann — rather than Mauricio Pochettino — is your preferred choice as Antonio Conte’s successor, how little trust there is in Daniel Levy when it comes to on-pitch matters (especially when compared to off-pitch ones), and an overwhelming disagreement with the decision not to suspend Fabio Paratici when he was banned in Italy.

These are the results of The Athletic’s Tottenham survey.

Starting with the head coach vacancy, 86 per cent of those surveyed either agreed or strongly agreed with the decision to sack Conte.

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Concerningly, the most popular response (41.6 per cent) to the decision to temporarily replace him with Cristian Stellini was indifference, reflecting the apathy that is creeping in at Spurs as they stagger towards the end of the season. At least the next best was a positive response, with 28.3 per cent agreeing with the decision.

As for Conte’s permanent successor, Nagelsmann was the most popular choice (48 per cent), followed by Pochettino (30.4 per cent) and then Brighton & Hove Albion’s Roberto De Zerbi (10.2 per cent). Spurs host Brighton on Saturday, incidentally. Other suggestions for the next Spurs manager included Ted Lasso, Tim Sherwood and View From The Lane host Danny Kelly.

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Regarding the ongoing ‘Spurs DNA’ vs ‘win now’ debate, more than half (50.6 per cent) said that style of play was what mattered most when picking a new manager. Above engendering a sense of togetherness (25.9 per cent) and winning trophies (23.5 per cent).

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When it comes to how the club is being run, there was broad dissatisfaction in the responses. As many as 82.2 per cent were either unhappy or very unhappy with Levy’s running of the club, and 79.7 per cent were less happy with the running of club than they were a month ago.

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An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters, contrasted with 57.5 per cent of respondents saying they trusted Levy with off-field matters.

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More than three quarters (75.7 per cent), meanwhile, disagreed with the club keeping Paratici in his role when he had been banned from Italian football by the country’s FA in January.

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Fewer than half (42.3 per cent) felt that Spurs were punching above their weight as a club, though a resounding 83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.

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One decision that will prove popular is the club announcing that they will freeze season ticket prices for 2023-24. Our poll closed shortly before Wednesday’s announcement and had only 5.9 per cent of respondents saying they would be either understanding or very understanding of a rise in prices.

Clearly, there are issues at the club that need resolving. A good result against Brighton on Saturday would at least lift the mood in the short term.
 
bus-conductor said:
theathletic.com

Spurs fans survey: Only 8.6% of fans trust Daniel Levy with on-pitch matters

With so much uncertainty around Tottenham Hotspur, The Athletic asked fans for their views on some of the biggest issues around the club...
theathletic.com theathletic.com

There’s a huge amount going on at Tottenham Hotspur, with uncertainty surrounding the new head coach, the managing director of football and the general direction of the club.

We asked for your views on Spurs’ most pressing issues, and almost 4,000 of you responded.

It’s a considerable sample size, and highlights that Julian Nagelsmann — rather than Mauricio Pochettino — is your preferred choice as Antonio Conte’s successor, how little trust there is in Daniel Levy when it comes to on-pitch matters (especially when compared to off-pitch ones), and an overwhelming disagreement with the decision not to suspend Fabio Paratici when he was banned in Italy.

These are the results of The Athletic’s Tottenham survey.

Starting with the head coach vacancy, 86 per cent of those surveyed either agreed or strongly agreed with the decision to sack Conte.

0405_SpursSurvey5.png


Concerningly, the most popular response (41.6 per cent) to the decision to temporarily replace him with Cristian Stellini was indifference, reflecting the apathy that is creeping in at Spurs as they stagger towards the end of the season. At least the next best was a positive response, with 28.3 per cent agreeing with the decision.

As for Conte’s permanent successor, Nagelsmann was the most popular choice (48 per cent), followed by Pochettino (30.4 per cent) and then Brighton & Hove Albion’s Roberto De Zerbi (10.2 per cent). Spurs host Brighton on Saturday, incidentally. Other suggestions for the next Spurs manager included Ted Lasso, Tim Sherwood and View From The Lane host Danny Kelly.

CORRECT-SURVEY-e1680790669971.png


Regarding the ongoing ‘Spurs DNA’ vs ‘win now’ debate, more than half (50.6 per cent) said that style of play was what mattered most when picking a new manager. Above engendering a sense of togetherness (25.9 per cent) and winning trophies (23.5 per cent).

0405_SpursSurvey10-1.png


When it comes to how the club is being run, there was broad dissatisfaction in the responses. As many as 82.2 per cent were either unhappy or very unhappy with Levy’s running of the club, and 79.7 per cent were less happy with the running of club than they were a month ago.

SURVEY-3.png


An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters, contrasted with 57.5 per cent of respondents saying they trusted Levy with off-field matters.

0405_SpursSurvey7.png


More than three quarters (75.7 per cent), meanwhile, disagreed with the club keeping Paratici in his role when he had been banned from Italian football by the country’s FA in January.

0405_SpursSurvey4.png


Fewer than half (42.3 per cent) felt that Spurs were punching above their weight as a club, though a resounding 83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.

0405_SpursSurvey6.png


One decision that will prove popular is the club announcing that they will freeze season ticket prices for 2023-24. Our poll closed shortly before Wednesday’s announcement and had only 5.9 per cent of respondents saying they would be either understanding or very understanding of a rise in prices.

Clearly, there are issues at the club that need resolving. A good result against Brighton on Saturday would at least lift the mood in the short term.
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Thanks, that's interesting 👍🏻

An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters

83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.
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SpiderSpurs said:
Thanks, that's interesting 👍🏻

An almost unanimous 91.4 per cent said they do not trust Levy with on-field matters

83.7 per cent either agreed or strongly agreed that Spurs were in a better position now than they were when Levy took over.
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Both things are true. We are definitely in a better position than when he took over, only a WUM could think otherwise. But, it’s also obvious it’s time for him and Lewis to sell up and give someone else a go at owning the club.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Both things are true. We are definitely in a better position than when he took over, only a WUM could think otherwise. But, it’s also obvious it’s time for him and Lewis to sell up and give someone else a go at owning the club.
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I agree with you (not being a WUM) I find it interesting.

According to a vocal minority on here, the club is in a worse state now than when they took over, that's all.
 
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