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Levy even saying it tongue in cheek is insulting if I am completely honest, considering the way the football side of the club has been operated over the last few years, it really isn't something to even be joked about, it just comes across as tonedeaf.

And you can't tell me for one second that Levy was mocking his own failures with that comment, especially after the smoke he blows up his own arse mere minutes later.

It was an absurd thing to say, tongue in cheek or not and is worthy of mockery because it shows he is completely out of touch with how supporters feel about the club right now.

And yes, the general feeling around the club and the chairman specifically is not good, it's not just a small pocket on a forum, that doesn't mean everyone wants Levy out but the wider sentiment seems to be that people want him away from the footballing decisions.

Whilst I agree that Matt Law has clearly used that quote as a stick to beat the club with in nefarious ways I also don't think what he says is inaccurate in the article if you ignore that.

You yourself say that we should deal with facts, there are facts being presented in the article.

The emotional response to him being a prick and using the tongue in cheek comment as clickbait and a way to mock the club is really irrelevant and little more than tribalism.
I watched the whole video. Levy isn’t mocking the club and he’s not making light of where we are now. It was just a tongue in cheek almost throwaway comment.

His article is a bad one for two reasons.

First, if you’re going to relay facts then you have to be a credible messenger. He is using uncharitable hooks and making snipes like “exiting Tottenham has not exactly proved to be a career killer”. Does leaving a big club usually kill your career? It’s a sarcastic non-point.

But more importantly, there’s no structure or point to the article. What’s the key argument? How do the facts and evidence support that key point? Is it that Spurs are not the greatest club in the world? Clearly not. That isn’t an article worth writing.

Is it just that spurs are a mess? That would be an article worth writing. So he describes some factual things to support that which is fine but runs out of steam after 8 sentences. Then he’s talking about Levy doing karaoke in Moscow, the fact former employees noone cares about have done well, the fact Brighton might finish higher… it’s an incoherent mesh of troll statements designed to feed in to disaster porn.

The article isn’t supposed to be funny, it’s not satire, it’s not got an argument, it’s got 8 sentences at the start which describe what’s happening in a pretty uninsightful way.

The line between journalism and Twitter is becoming blurred. It’s a race to the bottom. There were far, far better ways to attack the club or Levy.
 
The Levybots continue to spin spin spin everything!

Seriously, what are they fucking on about?

Our club is a shambles and this all stems from those at the top, especially Mr Levy himself.

I'm just embarrassed to be a Spurs fan nowadays and can't see anything changing until we get new owners. Levy and ENIC, just the like Tory party, are stale and have run out of ideas.

Time's up!


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Nope. But as has been said by LeParisien LeParisien , his constant digs because of one comment got a bit grating.

What else is he supposed to say in response to that?

He came out previously and said that winning was hard - perfectly factual - and was coated off on here due to that. Now he’s saying we are the greatest club and he’ll get the same. Nothing he can say these days that won’t be picked up by ENIC Out to further their agenda.

My only agenda is supporting the football club, no matter who owns it, manages it or plays for it.

Yeah, this.
 
People talk about Levy rarely being in the public eye. If I were him, I’d never give another interview. Fucked whatever he says.
Easy to see in that Cambridge Union forum how uncomfortable he is with public speaking.

It's not everyone's strong suit and that's fine.

But SOMEONE needs to speak with some candor and regularity about the club, because it's the right thing to do, and also because it doesn't allow paper bullshit to have every word on the narrative.

The problem is that none of the strategies and intentions of the club wash with the highest ticket prices in the world. The truth is un-admittable.
 
Easy to see in that Cambridge Union forum how uncomfortable he is with public speaking.

It's not everyone's strong suit and that's fine.

But SOMEONE needs to speak with some candor and regularity about the club, because it's the right thing to do, and also because it doesn't allow paper bullshit to have every word on the narrative.

The problem is that none of the strategies and intentions of the club wash with the highest ticket prices in the world. The truth is un-admittable.
Why does someone have to speak about the club? Do other owners do that a lot? Are you forever rolling your eyes when yet another interview with Sheikh Mansour comes on SSN? Sick of hearing long interviews with the Glazers? Nobody does it and why should they?

I honestly think this highest ticket price thing is a huge issue for many that the club could solve pretty quickly. Reduce prices by 10% across the board and it wouldn’t make a huge dent in our revenue. Would that make this season any more palatable? It wouldn’t for me, but might for the huge numbers of ENIC Out I keep hearing about.
 
Spurs are in the shite right now and the immediate future looks bleak.

That's not being miserable, that's the fucking truth.

I don't care where we finish this season, just want it over. Levy and ENIC don't give a fuck about the club and it's fans, that should be painfully obvious to all by now.

We have been used.
Out of interest, what do you mean by that last sentence? Who do you mean by 'we'? And how have they been used exactly?

For me, Levy / ENIC accumulated enough wealth through their previous business activities to purchase this football club (well, simplified but basically correct), and now own it, so can do as they wish with it (within the regs and law of course). They have never forced any fans to attend matches or buy merchandise. So just like with any other business, if we don't like what they are doing, their product, their behaviours, whatever, then we can refuse to pay them a penny, that's our choice as fans / consumers.

So how has anyone been 'used'?

(Genuine question, and apologies if I've simply misunderstood your point).
 
Why does someone have to speak about the club? Do other owners do that a lot? Are you forever rolling your eyes when yet another interview with Sheikh Mansour comes on SSN? Sick of hearing long interviews with the Glazers? Nobody does it and why should they?
Not as the owner, as the chairman, as the CEO.

Spurs have to stop having their helpless managers under siege from the press be the only voice of the club, it's been a toxic dynamic for years now.

A DoF could potentially play that role (Paratici didn't seem to want to, and was very limited in English), someone like Scott Munn could play that role.

But preseason, the end of the transfer window, end of the season, a couple key points, not every day, the CLUB, not the manager should step up to the mic and deliver its message.
I honestly think this highest ticket price thing is a huge issue for many that the club could solve pretty quickly. Reduce prices by 10% across the board and it wouldn’t make a huge dent in our revenue. Would that make this season any more palatable? It wouldn’t for me, but might for the huge numbers of ENIC Out I keep hearing about.
I'm sat here in Chicago and that would mean a lot to me.

It's the bottomless, enthusiastic cynicism that just galls me. A note of acknowledgment that the prices asked from fans haven't been reflected in what has been put on the field would cut through quite a bit.

Why are you saying we have the highest ticket prices in the world?

It wouldn’t shock me if it were true but I’m interested in the evidence for that.

It's not an exact science because the pricing varies. Woolwich are close as well.

And per a comment above, based on PSG's insane matchday income and smaller capacity they look likely to be higher as well, though the PL in general has the highest ticket prices in the world.

Spurs have much higher prices than United, City, Chelsea or Liverpool and spend much less on players, despite similar and sometimes higher revenues than the latter two.
 
That data is for the most expensive ticket only. It’s not at all surprising that we have the most expensive most expensive ticket because we will have the best luxury facilities in the world.

The most expensive cheapest ticket is at Woolwich in your own data.
I know what the data is, I posted it.
I just KNEW you'd find a way of rationalising it 😂. The fact is Tottenham sell the most expensive ticket, which was the claim.

A figure for average ST would be interesting though.
 
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