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Kaneson said:
It’s not even his money. If he was an owner like Abromovich or a shiek that puts their own money in you can understand the desire to want to play with your train set. This is all money he borrows in our name or the mugs that go give him.

useless meddling pratt.

Enough is enough.
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Just watched it. I'm angered at this revelation but not surprised. Mr byrite was levys level. This club will only go backwards on the pitch with him around. Depressing
 
Kaneson said:
It’s not even his money. If he was an owner like Abromovich or a shiek that puts their own money in you can understand the desire to want to play with your train set. This is all money he borrows in our name or the mugs that go give him.

useless meddling pratt.

Enough is enough.
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He's like Kenwright. A fan with a trainset and 10 years past his best.
 
Kaneson said:
It’s not even his money. If he was an owner like Abromovich or a shiek that puts their own money in you can understand the desire to want to play with your train set. This is all money he borrows in our name or the mugs that go give him.

useless meddling pratt.

Enough is enough.
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Thing is , I’m sure these DoF’s and their team are given budgets etc so it’s not like they’re saying “ here you go Daniel , I’ve found this lad in France called Mpappe , he does cost a bit though

Reminds me of the Morientes deal … all done then our man Dan offered to pay the fee over 10 bloody years !

Twunt
 
Supayid said:
Just watched it. I'm angered at this revelation but not surprised. Mr byrite was levys level. This club will only go backwards on the pitch with him around. Depressing
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Good post Supayid Supayid
This forum needs a few more sensible voices to balance things out.

Hope to see you posting more frequently in the months ahead.

I'm John, btw

:dierpochhug:
 
mick derry said:
Took dog for walk and as none of the techies have stepped up in the meantime (probably at work) I've done a pretty accurate transcript on TS catch up.


SJ says leading question I’m asking, I’ll tell you why, you’ve been at Tottenham, and the accusation is repeatedly and endlessly that DL is front and centre on player acquisition and I always make the case, not because he’s my friend, that that is ridiculous and that he’s at the back end when it comes to the money… can you speak to that in terms of your experience at Tottenham?

DW; Yeah, Daniel did like to play a hands on role in that..erm

JW What do you mean hands on David?

DW I would say that when it came to that final phase he would like to know what was going on.. He would like to have a say.. He would like it to be at a certain price point…

SJ But as far as player selection, based upon talent

DW Yeah he had an opinion and I think sometimes that could cause a conflict of interest

SJ Interesting

DW But when I was the with Poch, I think Poch particularly in the second year cos he done quite well had more of an overall say, so it came down to his decision..

JW So who had the last word?

DW er Poch

JW So there we go.
SJ So kind of half my point. Daniel was a little more involved than I anticipated, not withstanding that, the head coach has the final say

JW I mean at anytime did an owner or chairman like Levy say ‘no do you what, not him’?

DW yeah,..erm I think there were times at Tottenham we had players in the building that maybe we should have potentially signed that would have helped Poch at that time, that didn’t go through, through various aspects, I wasn’t always privy to the final details of that but there were questions being raised that I think sometimes that I think if we would have acquired that player at that certain time, it could have steered Tottenham in a different direction at that time

JW You see that disproves what your belief is (to SJ)

SJ Yeah, it does, it does.. I would suggest that decision, and again it sounds like I’m putting words into a certain space where DL can defend himself and it’s not my job to do so, that would more often than not be a monetary based decision.
Where you say players in the building do you mean players that were already at the football club that needed to be signed on better contracts or are you talking about players being brought in, that someway or another fell out because they couldn’t find an accord?

DW More players to sign

SJ Right

DW and through various reasons they didn’t get over the line.

JW And your position David is you have to go with the flow haven’t you…

DW yeah, very frustrating, lot of work done behind scenes, head of elite 17 to 1st team and because of way poch liked to play, that became a big area of recruitment, so once you’ve done your due diligence , all your work, all your processes, meet with the agents, package it up and presented it, and then obviously it goes over to Rebecca, she was head of football at the time and then to Daniel and obviously Poch was involved in them conversations as well and then it becomes down to them to execute it

JW Ok interesting.
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Excellent effort mate, cheers
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
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We recruit deals not footballers, that's the long and the short of it.

Deals not even in the sense of bargains per se, but situations where Daniel Levy's superficial cleverness can win the day. Something that is just much less possible in 2023 than it was in 2004 when clubs were analytically, tactically and financially much much much less sophisticated than every single club at the top professional level in Europe is now. The game has changed and Levy hasn't changed with it.

We're never going anywhere with those handcuffs on, and the extreme limitations that puts on our ability to successfully complete business is inextricable with the staleness of the squad in which mediocre players overstay their welcome, it's 1:1, it's the same problem.

Levy wants to be less involved in the day-to-day, which is heartening, but there's a lot more to it than that and the proof will be in the pudding. The only thing that would reliably and durably ensure the proper relationship between Levy and our transfer business would be for him to resign his position as chairman.

Indeed, enough is enough.
 
John Thomas said:
Wow! Wow! And double WOW!!!!!

How can any Spurs fan read this and still want Levy / ENIC to stay :mourshock:

Thanks for posting, btw
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Dude Woah Face GIF
 
FightingIllini said:
We recruit deals not footballers, that's the long and the short of it.

Deals not even in the sense of bargains per se, but situations where Daniel Levy's superficial cleverness can win the day. Something that is just much less possible in 2023 than it was in 2004 when clubs were analytically, tactically and financially much much much less sophisticated than every single club at the top professional level in Europe is now. The game has changed and Levy hasn't changed with it.

We're never going anywhere with those handcuffs on, and the extreme limitations that puts on our ability to successfully complete business is inextricable with the staleness of the squad in which mediocre players overstay their welcome, it's 1:1, it's the same problem.

Levy wants to be less involved in the day-to-day, which is heartening, but there's a lot more to it than that and the proof will be in the pudding. The only thing that would reliably and durably ensure the proper relationship between Levy and our transfer business would be for him to resign his position as chairman.

Indeed, enough is enough.
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Everything is opportunism. There is no thought through process on DoF, managers or players. There doesnt appear to be any research or targeting the right person just seat of the pants who is available at any given time and happy to come.

Just the most obvious example 2 years ago we'd already started the manager search Paratici leaves Juventus, lets go for him so we drop everything on a passing fancy and go in the opposite direction.

As you say 15 maybe even 10 years ago opportunism could get you somewhere, now things have moved on, clubs are much more professional and we just look incredibly old fashioned and a bit amateur.
 
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Sir Archibald Crooks said:
Everything is opportunism. There is no thought through process on DoF, managers or players. There doesnt appear to be any research or targeting the right person just seat of the pants who is available at any given time and happy to come.

Just the most obvious example 2 years ago we'd already started the manager search Paratici leaves Juventus, lets go for him so we drop everything on a passing fancy and go in the opposite direction.

As you say 15 maybe even 10 years ago opportunism could get you somewhere, now things have moved on, clubs are much more professional and we just look incredibly old fashioned and a bit amateur.
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Reports that the Richarlison deal fell in our laps and he wasn't a player that we actively engaged in recruiting, whilst Levy jumped in to push the Porro deal over-the-line to back his manager (at the time).
 
Château NoHo said:
Reports that the Richarlison deal fell in our laps and he wasn't a player that we actively engaged in recruiting, whilst Levy jumped in to push the Porro deal over-the-line to back his manager (at the time).
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The Richarlison made total sense at the time it was made and then stopped making any sense whatsoever the moment it became clear how Conte was going to use his forwards.

A really bizarre one even by our standards.
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
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No, no no, to anyone using this to defend levy. This is so blatantly obvious and crystal clear that the recruiter isn't impressed with the decisions taken by Levy. Missing out on key players. Given that this recruiter has hindsight, he is referring to players who have done well elsewhere (i.e. not proven flops) given that he's implying they could have made a difference.

Fundamentally disagree with anybody leaning on the "poch had final say" bandwagon.

Clear internal insight that Levy had a vocal opinion of players, and would get involved on costings, and "had a price mind" for a player.

If your managing director boss with a history of sacking employees told you,

"I prefer this cheaper option, its better value for money and looks better to me.....but YOU have final say".......is that really a choice or a charged question.

I defy half of the members on here to disagree with their managing director knowing full well if the more expensive alternative isn't guaranteed to work out then you are stuffed.
 
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