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I love the way they keep switching narrative to defend ENIC / Levy . It’s the manager‘s fault , the DOF’s fault ,the player’s fault, the scout‘s fault , recently the fan‘s fault , now it is the fault of the other board members

I am looking forward to them blaming Alan Titchmarsh soon
 
The general consensus is that there is mistake after mistake from Levy. I think that assumption needs to be at least challenged.

Perhaps what happens is deliberate. Perhaps the reality of minimum input for maximum output is exactly what we are seeing ?

The pattern of behaviour rhymes in a way that cannot be the result of screwing things up.

Look @ 2008. The team actually was good and was on the cusp of breaking through. And Levy sold ( maximised ) the money from Keane and Berbatov. He held the contracts of both and didn’t have to let them leave. He decided that was the most profitable way to act.

While he bangs on about wider revenue going back into the team, at what point is that reality ? The point when it’s gone through all the levels of the club where x % is diverted to here and y % is diverted to there and etc. Leaving now much of the additional revenue actually invested into the squad ?

THFC’s football revenue is such that it can very much compete with the “top” clubs. So perhaps it is deliberate that they don’t do so. Perhaps the chaos, the penny pinching and the what looks inept is anything but.

The income rinses around ENIC & then finally what’s left is bunged at the end of year accounts to further justify the narrative of the littlest big club in town.

I‘ve posted many times that I am lucky to know people who have done business with Levy, and not one of them would conclude he is stupid, but they all say he micro manages every little penny and even back in the rag trade they would swap agreed terms right at the last minute. So patterns are at play, not stupidity.
 
LeeMcl said:
The general consensus is that there is mistake after mistake from Levy. I think that assumption needs to be at least challenged.

Perhaps what happens is deliberate. Perhaps the reality of minimum input for maximum output is exactly what we are seeing ?

The pattern of behaviour rhymes in a way that cannot be the result of screwing things up.

Look @ 2008. The team actually was good and was on the cusp of breaking through. And Levy sold ( maximised ) the money from Keane and Berbatov. He held the contracts of both and didn’t have to let them leave. He decided that was the most profitable way to act.

While he bangs on about wider revenue going back into the team, at what point is that reality ? The point when it’s gone through all the levels of the club where x % is diverted to here and y % is diverted to there and etc. Leaving now much of the additional revenue actually invested into the squad ?

THFC’s football revenue is such that it can very much compete with the “top” clubs. So perhaps it is deliberate that they don’t do so. Perhaps the chaos, the penny pinching and the what looks inept is anything but.

The income rinses around ENIC & then finally what’s left is bunged at the end of year accounts to further justify the narrative of the littlest big club in town.

I‘ve posted many times that I am lucky to know people who have done business with Levy, and not one of them would conclude he is stupid, but they all say he micro manages every little penny and even back in the rag trade they would swap agreed terms right at the last minute. So patterns are at play, not stupidity.
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I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Not in the slightest.
 
LeeMcl said:
The general consensus is that there is mistake after mistake from Levy. I think that assumption needs to be at least challenged.

Perhaps what happens is deliberate. Perhaps the reality of minimum input for maximum output is exactly what we are seeing ?

The pattern of behaviour rhymes in a way that cannot be the result of screwing things up.

Look @ 2008. The team actually was good and was on the cusp of breaking through. And Levy sold ( maximised ) the money from Keane and Berbatov. He held the contracts of both and didn’t have to let them leave. He decided that was the most profitable way to act.

While he bangs on about wider revenue going back into the team, at what point is that reality ? The point when it’s gone through all the levels of the club where x % is diverted to here and y % is diverted to there and etc. Leaving now much of the additional revenue actually invested into the squad ?

THFC’s football revenue is such that it can very much compete with the “top” clubs. So perhaps it is deliberate that they don’t do so. Perhaps the chaos, the penny pinching and the what looks inept is anything but.

The income rinses around ENIC & then finally what’s left is bunged at the end of year accounts to further justify the narrative of the littlest big club in town.

I‘ve posted many times that I am lucky to know people who have done business with Levy, and not one of them would conclude he is stupid, but they all say he micro manages every little penny and even back in the rag trade they would swap agreed terms right at the last minute. So patterns are at play, not stupidity.
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He was forced by Berbatov turning up at Old Trafford without permission tbf , he had already sold Keane I believe . We then ended up with Fraser Campbell , one could argue it was Levy’s responsibility to know what Berbatov might do and should have at least sorted it sooner . But I think if he had rolled over on selling Berbatov fans would have been outraged , I know I would have been . With hindsight it was a massive screw up , at the time I don’t think he could have won whatever he did ,

Cannot believe I’m defending him , whichever way you slice it Campbell was a disaster though
 
Cancelled my SpursPlay subscription a few weeks ago, I’ve hardly used it in the last year but I wouldn’t be surprised if the price of that went up soon
 
LeeMcl said:
The general consensus is that there is mistake after mistake from Levy. I think that assumption needs to be at least challenged.

Perhaps what happens is deliberate. Perhaps the reality of minimum input for maximum output is exactly what we are seeing ?

The pattern of behaviour rhymes in a way that cannot be the result of screwing things up.

Look @ 2008. The team actually was good and was on the cusp of breaking through. And Levy sold ( maximised ) the money from Keane and Berbatov. He held the contracts of both and didn’t have to let them leave. He decided that was the most profitable way to act.

While he bangs on about wider revenue going back into the team, at what point is that reality ? The point when it’s gone through all the levels of the club where x % is diverted to here and y % is diverted to there and etc. Leaving now much of the additional revenue actually invested into the squad ?

THFC’s football revenue is such that it can very much compete with the “top” clubs. So perhaps it is deliberate that they don’t do so. Perhaps the chaos, the penny pinching and the what looks inept is anything but.

The income rinses around ENIC & then finally what’s left is bunged at the end of year accounts to further justify the narrative of the littlest big club in town.

I‘ve posted many times that I am lucky to know people who have done business with Levy, and not one of them would conclude he is stupid, but they all say he micro manages every little penny and even back in the rag trade they would swap agreed terms right at the last minute. So patterns are at play, not stupidity.
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Absolutely. So far their plan to turn £30m into £5bn has gone perfectly.
 
Gazzapen said:
Poch is going show Levy a Toffee. Rumours are rife that he is chasing Kane, Mac Allister, Rice and Martinez.

With what Chelsea already have, and a reasonable tactician in Poch, City will have company.
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There is no way that the Chavs will be able to buy those players. That’s around 300 million.

They’re utterly screwed in terms of FFP and have players on insane contracts.
 
Cranston said:
There is no way that the Chavs will be able to buy those players. That’s around 300 million.

They’re utterly screwed in terms of FFP and have players on insane contracts.
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I know they have people on 8 year contracts but if they have a break clause at 3 or 4 years in their option it’s not so bad . They can on paper write the cost down over 8 years if the option is theirs only . I cannot believe their accountants and lawyers would be so thick as not to do this

Hope I am wrong
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
I know they have people on 8 year contracts but if they have a break clause at 3 or 4 years in their option it’s not so bad . They can on paper write the cost down over 8 years if the option is theirs only . I cannot believe their accountants and lawyers would be so thick as not to do this

Hope I am wrong
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I do not believe there is any break clause. That was the key point that allowed them to evade FFP.

I really do think they’ve been that thick.

Chavs simply aren’t splashing the cash anymore. They can’t.
 
Shadydan said:
They hired Nuno because they made a complete mess of hiring a manager in the Summer, it wasn't by design - he was merely a placeholder.
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Even as a placeholder it made no fucking sense. How can you turn to a man like Nuno if you are trying to “return to the Tottenham DNA”. At least managers like Fonseca and Gattuso made sense from that aspect. To hire Nuno is just demented. Not only is he crap but his style of football is completely opposite to what we were supposedly trying to do. Literally a waste of our time letting him train our players.
 
Cranston said:
I do not believe there is any break clause. That was the key point that allowed them to evade FFP.

I really do think they’ve been that thick.

Chavs simply aren’t splashing the cash anymore. They can’t.
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If it is in their option only they can say the player has an 8 year contract , as I said hope I am wrong . Liz Truss and Kwarteng must be advising them if i am wrong

lettuce GIF by It's Suppertime
 
StripiestPilot said:
Even as a placeholder it made no fucking sense. How can you turn to a man like Nuno if you are trying to “return to the Tottenham DNA”. At least managers like Fonseca and Gattuso made sense from that aspect. To hire Nuno is just demented. Not only is he crap but his style of football is completely opposite to what we were supposedly trying to do. Literally a waste of our time letting him train our players.
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Gattuso was never going to work due to a fan revolt, not even sure what happened with Fonseca but I don't think Paratici was convinced.

Nuno was definitely the safe choice and they panicked because time was running out.

That Summer was jokes.
 
Shadydan said:
Gattuso was never going to work due to a fan revolt, not even sure what happened with Fonseca but I don't think Paratici was convinced.

Nuno was definitely the safe choice and they panicked because time was running out.

That Summer was jokes.
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Gattuso i agree. Fonseca we may never know , it was weird how that went down though . I agree panicking ref Nuno , I don’t know anyone thought he was a safe choice though , unless the context is safer than nobody at all
 
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