At this point Levy has been caught red handed scratching and sniffing just one too many times. It's time for him to get a bidet, be the bigger man and move on
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Oh , I didn’t realise that you had the gift of then seeing into the future … Leicestershire, 50 years of mediocrity? I don’t really know what you’re offering there ? Factual results to possible outcomes plus ….What our promise is ?
I tried to shape my paragraph to your 2nd … it’s not great but all considering
If he does believe that then I am seriously going to be concerned.
Levy and ENIC are as capitalist and business first as they come, they aren't for the good of the people or noble, they certainly aren't creating a fairer society, they are, if anything; pricing most people out of their business model for the sake of bigger wealth generation.
To think they are the "good guys" is little more than economic political tail wagging imo.
No. I am however proud that the progress we’ve made over 20+ years has been made through our own blood, sweat and tears. No handouts. No trust funds. Just our own hard work.
However I am saying that asking for oil state owners is asking to profit from something that is killing the game.
Do you want to deal with the substance of my post or pick on an illustrative example?Oh , I didn’t realise that you had the gift of then seeing into the future … Leicestershire, 50 years of mediocrity? I don’t really know what you’re offering there ? Factual results to possible outcomes plus ….What our promise is ?
I tried to shape my paragraph to your 2nd … it’s not great but all considering
I don’t think the example is crazy though. Leicester are getting relegated. Their swings are far larger than us and they skew far worse than us.
How do you define progress?
Being the club in the most debt in world football?
Having the greatest strike force in the history of the pl without winning anything?
Charging the highest prices for sport in the world?
Breaking the record of not purchasing any players in any elite league of the world?
Having a stadium build 2 years late at nearly double the initial price.
Selling Berbatov and Keane and getting Frazier Campbell on loan?
Having more managers and caretaker managers on your watch than any other chairman in history?
Losing to Brentford at home 3-1?
Whats your parameters?
I mean. I could go on and on.
Idiot.
It isn't killing the game, it HAS killed the game, well...as we knew it anyway.
The "game" isn't going to be saved, that is a fools quest on a road paved with sadness and disappointment.
And either Levy is too sentimental to understand that, too out of touch to understand it or is completely aware that it's a fools quest and just keeps playing the "we must defeat the evil bad guys" card because he wants to hide behind it for business reasons, forging a "doing things the right way" narrative for legacy fans to cling on to.
The ESL and our willingness to join it told me everything I need to know about how Levy feels on a moral compass level about the big money clubs; this isn't about the game being killed in his eyes (even though that's how he will spin it because it emotionally resonates with legacy football fans) it's about ENIC and himself wanting to compete without having to match that absurd level of funding and wealth.
Whilst I respect that from a business perspective, football isn't a traditional business model anymore, it's a landscape saturated in corruption and awash with endless sums of money, it cannot be defeated, the money involved would never allow that.
If it were to be defeated it would lead to the complete collapse of modern football as we know it, I would actually welcome that but again, it's not going to happen is it? If we are talking about dealing with facts, THAT is a fact, maybe an uncomfortable one but a fact nonetheless.
I don't disagree that Levy has built the club in a sustainable and respectable way, that cannot be disputed.
But I am also not going to pretend he isn't the very definition of a pure capitalist, none of this has been done for reasons of moral purity of the people OR the game of football.
To think that would be extremely naive and would be ignoring reality imo.
You are like the mum saying why are those 999 soldiers not marching in step with my son .
TBF it would be 5 mums about the other 995 soldiers as an analogy for this forum
Joe Lewis for PM , land of milk and honey as he works for a fairer society. Food bank Joe as I am pretty sure they don’t call him
We have some common ground here.
I don’t see the game as irredeemable. If it were then all the anger here is completely wasted - there’s no hope here, it’s all a charade, we’re only deluding ourselves because the outcome is predetermined. We’re pretty close to that with City winning 5 out of the last 6… and Newcastle on their way.
ESL is a distraction but I’m sure we were all against. I understand Levy’s decision though - this thing is happening… you in or out? It’s a very tough decision if your duty is to maximise the club's outcomes. The ESL’s collapse gave me some hope for the game… our game.
If we do come into oil money then it doesn’t become particularly meaningful to win. It’s just a capitalist nightmare with 100 losers and 3 or 4 teams playing for 95% of trophies. Is that sport? Is that fun? Your experience is basically the same as a glory hunter… you just lucked out.
I don’t think the cure to the games sickness is another dose of sickness. I’d rather not be a part of that. I’d rather keep striving honestly.
But that’s just me and people can reasonably disagree.
Let me throw it back to you - what progress do you see in the club since 2001?
Simon Jordon one of the few people to consistently talk sense.
Biggest summer in the history of spurs under ENIC ahead of us.
Unfortunately majority of footballing decisions over past 6 years have been awful which doesn’t fill me with hope.
Squad looks like it’s on the slide. No leaders. Lack of real quality.
One more year of Harry Kane maximum. No Europe means he could easily leave in January - similar to eriksen- as won’t be cup tied.
Whoever the new manager is he has an incredible amount of work to do to pick this squad up.
Both spurs and Chelsea finishing the season with relegation form…… something tells me the owners are going to have massively contrasting ways of getting out of the mess they put themselves into.
What did levy’s end of season letter say?
Just a massive page with a BOGOF voucher on karting for ST holders??
Unfortunately majority of footballing decisions over past 6 years have been awful which doesn’t fill me with hope.
Squad looks like it’s on the slide. No leaders. Lack of real quality.
One more year of Harry Kane maximum. No Europe means he could easily leave in January - similar to eriksen- as won’t be cup tied.
Whoever the new manager is he has an incredible amount of work to do to pick this squad up.
Both spurs and Chelsea finishing the season with relegation form…… something tells me the owners are going to have massively contrasting ways of getting out of the mess they put themselves into.
What did levy’s end of season letter say?
Just a massive page with a BOGOF voucher on karting for ST holders??
Sacking Conte (and for That Jose) without a replacement just because of Levy's ego has/will be hurt is just the sign of this control freck,
those that havent watced Contes outburst need to watch he say the thing we all fell is wrong with the way Levy and his board run the club
the folks on the board need to be challerging Levy on what he is doing instant its the emperor's new clothes
those that havent watced Contes outburst need to watch he say the thing we all fell is wrong with the way Levy and his board run the club
the folks on the board need to be challerging Levy on what he is doing instant its the emperor's new clothes
I still haven’t renewed my season ticket. Bet he’s getting nervous.
Starting to wonder what the point is really. Levy must have a staggering lack of self awareness not to realise that the reason he’s getting these chants is because his awful decision making. He’s brought it all on himself.
Starting to wonder what the point is really. Levy must have a staggering lack of self awareness not to realise that the reason he’s getting these chants is because his awful decision making. He’s brought it all on himself.
One of the only good thing of turning shit will be getting rid of these hangers on.
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Bring me the blood money!
Through thick or thin or GTFO.
Actually...maybe that should be our actual motto.
That’s what Levy will write as he puts up season ticket prices……will say he’s speaking as the voice of the fanbase
Your approach is to talk shit...you've no fucking idea about economics and that's clear to anyone who does... what is fair? Is it equality?
You've consistently confused politics with economics and show clear ignorance in finance.
Levy has fucked up massively through his ego led approach and has just realized like a smug rabbit on the highway that the lights moving towards him belong to a reliant Robbin....
He overspent by hundreds of millions on the stadium, and I'd love to see those contracts, he significantly underspent on the squad, he tried to change our fn DNA with his managerial appointments, promising managers money that never materialized and took decisions on fucking transfer matters.
Right now he is shitting himself, he sees his revenue falling dramatically while his interest payments and outgoings remain the same, his squad is falling apart and most sane managers won't touch him. The fans are starting to turn and for the first time he as realized that football has got in the way.
It won't matter who levy brings in, he won't spend the money required and next year we will fall further behind. We've become a cautionary tale in the football world.
He should have stayed in real estate - oh wait, he thought he had.